Posted on 06/28/2007 4:42:34 PM PDT by Kitten Festival
Phooey!
Half assed presidency?
You give him far too much credit there.
> So, Rudy is right on this, doesn’t change the fact that Rudy is a hopeless butthole! Rudy is in no position to criticize anyone!
I beg to differ. Giuliani is about the closest thing to a credible GOP candidate available here and now. Nobody else has his profile or his credentials.
Yes, he is suboptimal and his policies leave much to be desired.
But so far, nobody else on the GOP slate of candidates could beat a HillBilly/Obama team. Nobody. Not even Fred.
Unless someone steps forward REAL SOON, the Rats are going to win and Billary will be running the show. For two full terms.
America needs a Hero to run for the GOP presidential candidate. Of those on offer, Giuliani is closest to being a real “hero”. He arguably cleaned up NYC, and he was arguably very visible during 9/11. So far that is the best that the GOP can do.
The Free World needs a Hero to run for President as a GOP candidate! We need a Hero! Someone with a chest full of medals, maybe a Marine or an Army or Navy veteran: someone who served honorably in Vietnam.
America needs a War-time President. In fact, the whole Free World needs a War-time President to be running the show in the Oval Office.
So far, the best the GOP has is Giuliani. That’s it.
The Clintons did not lull us into war.
The Clintons oblivioused us into war.
They were too clueless and distracted with interns, back room deals, back stabbing, and spying on political opponents to even see what was going on in the world. To lull us in would imply that they knew what was happening and wanted the public ignorant of the dangers present because they thought we couldn’t deal with it. I’d rather have a sneaky bastard in office that tells us nothing is going on, all the while he’s effectively dealing with the problems and protecting us, than a couple of self indulgent incompetent pretty people oblivious to everything around them that doesn’t advance their position or personal fortunes.
“So far, the best the GOP has is Giuliani”.
The Clintons were building an empire. Sadly no one realized it until it is too late.
I realize that you don’t like Rudy but try to look beyind that for a moment. Hillary is selling the American public a return to the Clinton years. Fine. But she should have to answer for its failings then.
Let me make it clear: You won't be the nominee so you had better ask her now.
The answer left down the memory hole in the pants of Sandy Berger....
I thought they were aflatus.
> Just die alone, turkey, I ain’t going down with you!
I won’t be going down.
No, I just get to watch as a frightened observer from the outside while America comes to grips with the inevitable Clinton sequel presidency.
It’s up to you lot to change that tragedy. Right now, nobody running for GOP can beat her. Arguably Guiliani stands an outside chance, and if he’s the best you’ve got then the GOP and all Conservatives are in for a really unpleasant 8 years.
He ain't squat in that department. He did his job after 9-11. Nothing heroic about that. Heck, Rummy wanted to run into the Pentagon after the 9-11 attack there and aides had to restrain him. He showed far more heroism than Rudy.
We don’t need a Kiwi telling us who can win or not win in the US. I have a suggestion - why don’t you see if you can get someone to the right of Karl Marx as your country’s Prime Minister before you tell us who we need as the standard bearer for the GOP.
> We don’t need a Kiwi telling us who can win or not win in the US.
Your xenophobia is truly scary. And people wonder why Americans have such a ugly reputation overseas. It might surprise you to know that what happens in America is of interest to every sentient person on the planet, because when you jokers sneeze, we all catch flu.
> I have a suggestion - why don’t you see if you can get someone to the right of Karl Marx as your country’s Prime Minister before you tell us who we need as the standard bearer for the GOP.
I have an even better suggestion: once you go thru your second term with Billary at the helm, maybe you can be qualified to reminisce of being to the right of Karl Marx. Because Hillbilly is most certainly going to win, on current form. And she will make Karl Marx look moderate.
When she wins, it will be your fault.
Perhaps you would do well to pay attention to what has happened to my country, because that is precisely where the US is going unless you get a decent Presidential candidate for the GOP. Which you haven’t got yet.
Xenophobia? That's a laff. Later, I don't play with folks who engage in absurd name-calling.
> Xenophobia? That’s a laff.
Did you or did you not object to me being a Kiwi with an opinion on the US elections? Sorry, but “xenophobia” is an accurate description of that.
I am a good friend of America, and your attitude sucks.
> Later, I don’t play with folks who engage in absurd name-calling.
You seem to prefer to take nasty pokes and then run like a rabbit when called to account for yourself. “Cowardice” is an accurate description of that.
I haven’t called you any names: I’ve only identified your behaviors.
Don’t worry, though. I’ll leave you alone. I don’t like debating with people who can’t take what they dish out.
No, I object to you insisting that we need a pro-abort, anti-gun, pro-gay-agenda, pro-CFR, pro-global-warming authoritarian control freak to defeat Hillary. Maybe that is what passes for a conservative in your liberal country - but it sure isn't what passes for a conservative in ours.
> No, I object to you insisting that we need a pro-abort, anti-gun, pro-gay-agenda, pro-CFR, pro-global-warming authoritarian control freak to defeat Hillary.
OK, so this is really easy to fix between you and me. Giuliani is the best that the GOP has to offer. He will surely lose, because he is not the right man to lead the GOP into the next election.
Everybody else is a dam’n sight worse.
To me, that speaks volumes about the quality of candidates that the GOP has on offer: they are not up to scratch.
America needs a Hero at the helm of the GOP to be POTUS. Someone with a chest-full of medals, a War-time President who knows what it means to lead men into battle and thru the valley of the shadow of Death.
Someone like Gen Hal Moore, or Lt-Col Oliver North.
Nobody of that stature has stepped forward yet. That is why the Democrats are going to win next election, unless someone of that stature does step forward.
And if you believe that, you're full of crap, quite frankly. The Rudy worship forum Wideawakes would welcome you with open arms. They don't care that you are an uninformed Kiwi who has no apparent grasp of American political concepts such as the Reagan coalition. In fact, that's probably an asset over there.
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