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To: digitalbrownshirt
Dude,

the guy wasn’t driving the car

Irrelevant. He was detained during a felony stop. Anyone I know, cop or not, would be reasonable to treat such an individual with extreme caution.

and the video doesn’t show him reaching into his waistband for anything.

I beg to differ. I think it shows that the suspect reached toward his waistband on at least two separate occasions, and then try to get up in a position that would have allowed him to reach the deputy for a takedown.

It does show a cop telling him to get up repeatedly then shooting him after he follows the command.

I heard that too -- I think the deputy's tactics and commands were less than sound (which, by the way, is why he was fired) however, once he had decided to conduct the stop from a position where the suspect could have engaged him, he exhibited restraint.

What I think happened? The deputy kept giving orders to "shut up" and "lie down", which the suspect chose to ignore -- he was clearly non-cooperative, and as an MP, should have known better. The statement to "get up" was poor tactics -- in the context, and given the tone of voice it was a warning given as "go ahead and get up and see what happens". Maybe the MP misunderstood the comment as a command, though I don't really think so. Clearly, the jury didn't think that given the totality of the circumstances, the deputy's use of force was criminal. Bad tactics, well, hard to argue otherwise. Bad training, probably. Criminal? I'm with the jury on this one -- no.

68 posted on 06/29/2007 6:17:31 PM PDT by absalom01 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: absalom01

So you agree that he actually told the guy to get up? Then he shot the guy for following his directions? How is that not criminal?


69 posted on 06/30/2007 3:14:14 AM PDT by digitalbrownshirt (http://digitalbrownshirt.blogspot.com)
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To: absalom01
Maybe the MP misunderstood the comment as a command, though I don't really think so

He clearly did. He advised the deputy that he was getting up. Being doubly careful.

Also, the Sky Cop was much too coherent to have a BA of 0.18, even for a 23 y/o man in good condition.

78 posted on 07/11/2007 4:06:40 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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