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The Inside Story On What's Happening With The Senate Immigration Bill (Lindsay Graham)
The Inside Story ^ | June 28, 2007 | John Hawkins

Posted on 06/28/2007 7:53:16 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

Yesterday, a GOP aide, who is one of my sources in the Senate, gave me the rundown on what's happening with the Senate immigration bill.. First of all, on Tuesday, after the first cloture vote, the bill was supposed to come out around 2:30 P.M. on Tuesday. However, it didn't actually get handed out until around 5:15 P.M. This was a problem, in and of itself, because we're talking 373 pages and the 2nd cloture vote is on Thursday. That was a lot of material for these senators to pour through in such a short time.

Then on Wednesday morning, the bill was out on the internet and bloggers started picking it apart and that morning around 10 AM, Reid pulled the bill so it could be re-drafted because he said there were mistakes in it. They spent almost the whole morning drafting it and when they re-released it, it was 400 pages long. That means that it's likely when the vote occurs tomorrow, not a single senator voting on the bill will have had an opportunity to actually read it. Reid's response to complaints about that has basically been, "Trust me." ..

My source then emphasized how ridiculous this whole process has been. You had a few senators getting together in secret to write the bill and then they tried to ram it through before anybody could read it. However, because the bill was held over the Memorial Day break, it failed cloture and died the first time. Then it was brought back this Tuesday, by using an arcane maneuver in a way that has never happened before in the history of the Senate...

Additionally, I asked my source about Lindsey Graham suddenly talking tough about not voting for the bill unless a touchback provision is added. What is his motivation for that? He told me that he thinks Lindsey Graham is just running scared at this point. He's up for re-election in 2008, his poll numbers are plunging, and talk radio and the conservative blogs are mercilessly beating him up every day. So, he's looking for some kind of fig leaf to use as protection. He added that unfortunately for Graham, the touchback provision probably wouldn't cut it. For the most part, the base isn't impressed with it, and most of the people who support that provision are already inclined to support amnesty anyway....


TOPICS: Government; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; blowbackforgraham; congress; deathofthegop; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; lindsaygraham; lindseygraham; sellout; vampirebill
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South Carolina Weeping Pansy has second thoughts as he sees his political career circling the drain.
1 posted on 06/28/2007 7:53:17 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: 3AngelaD
He's up for re-election in 2008, his poll numbers are plunging

Graham has inexplicably cut his own throat.

2 posted on 06/28/2007 7:56:53 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: 3AngelaD
He told me that he thinks Lindsey Graham is just running scared at this point. He's up for re-election in 2008, his poll numbers are plunging, and talk radio and the conservative blogs are mercilessly beating him up every day.

When Rush tags you nationally with the nickname Grammnesty, you know you're in trouble with the right.

3 posted on 06/28/2007 7:58:04 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (A base looking for a party.)
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To: 3AngelaD

It was pretty clear IMO from Lindsey’s speech a few minutes ago that the arrogant jerk will vote FOR cloture. If cloture fails, he will be left hanging.


4 posted on 06/28/2007 7:58:06 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Lancey Howard

I have no doubt that someone on his staff joined Senator Kennedy in telling him that being one of the Grand Bargainers on the immigration bill was a wonderful idea, and that it would guarantee his re-election next year.


5 posted on 06/28/2007 7:59:04 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

I think regardless of the outcome, he will be left hanging.


6 posted on 06/28/2007 8:00:23 AM PDT by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: 3AngelaD
"...Lindsey Graham is just running scared at this point."

Do I sense a disturbance in the farce?

7 posted on 06/28/2007 8:00:43 AM PDT by MizSterious (Recovering Bushbot; Will you have one lump or two with your tea?)
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To: 3AngelaD
My source then emphasized how ridiculous this whole process has been.

It would be more appropriate to label the process of this bill as "treasonous".

 

 

8 posted on 06/28/2007 8:01:43 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (The danger - the Tempest - forever is o'er.)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
If cloture fails, he will be left hanging.

His b@lls(no matter how small) are on the block... and he knows it.

9 posted on 06/28/2007 8:02:45 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: 3AngelaD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U1YXFpzDXU


10 posted on 06/28/2007 8:03:49 AM PDT by Bladerunnuh
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To: 3AngelaD

I am against this bill, but I will repeat again: The touchback provision is stupid. If you are basically going to give everybody amnesty, why bother harassing them and making them take a trip for no reason? Why set up a federal bureaucracy to monitor it?


11 posted on 06/28/2007 8:04:00 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: 3AngelaD

Fail this cloture, let people examine the “new bill” over the 4th of July break, and then kill it, drive a stake through it’s heart, behead it, burn it, expose anything left to sunlight, and bury it in hallowed ground so it can never rise again.


12 posted on 06/28/2007 8:05:20 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: 3AngelaD
That was a lot of material for these senators to pour through in such a short time.

I'm so sick of shamnesty. I think I'll just put on my grammar police hat for a minute.

Pour: 1. to send (a liquid, fluid, or anything in loose particles) flowing or falling, as from one container to another, or into, over, or on something: to pour a glass of milk; to pour water on a plant.

Pore: 1. to read or study with steady attention or application: a scholar poring over a rare old manuscript.

13 posted on 06/28/2007 8:11:08 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: 3AngelaD

The more it becomes clear to these arrogant, self rightous tards that voting for this monstrosity is political suicide the better. Vote them out anyway!


14 posted on 06/28/2007 8:12:33 AM PDT by Leg Olam
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To: Rodney King
The touchback provision is stupid. If you are basically going to
give everybody amnesty, why bother harassing them and making them
take a trip for no reason?


It's a fig leaf for the mass-amnesty supporters.
IMHO, it was a "carrot" they put out there to lure some wobbly RINOs
to their side.

But, I suspect the program's likely virtue is that it would allow
the guvmint/immgration a chance to get illegals back to their country of
origins...then deny them re-entry into the the USA OR immediately arrest
them upon return if it's found they have criminal activity or
falsified their amnesty applications.

I suspect that's the real reason amnesty folks fight this provision
tooth and nail. Otherwise there'd be no real reason to complain about
illegals making a trip "back home" which is what they all wail about
being a major hassle given their illegal immigration status.
15 posted on 06/28/2007 8:14:53 AM PDT by VOA
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To: 3AngelaD; alarm rider; Alex1977; BILL_C; bnelson44; Clintonfatigued; DHC-2; gruntSGT; ...
Lindsey Graham is just running scared at this point. He's up for re-election in 2008, his poll numbers are plunging, and talk radio and the conservative blogs are mercilessly beating him up every day.

Hot Dogies!

  Lindsey Ping
  "Republican by day, Democrat by night."

  Add me to the list. / Remove me from the list.

16 posted on 06/28/2007 8:20:10 AM PDT by upchuck (If you don't have borders, you won't have a nation ~ Mark Steyn)
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To: Lancey Howard

Graham has inexplicably cut his own throat.

I think it was a different part of his anatomy. They were so small that McLame had to use a microscope to do the job.


17 posted on 06/28/2007 8:27:53 AM PDT by hdstmf
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To: MizSterious

Said Lindsay Graham, “blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, please don’t kick me out of the club, blah, blah, blah, blah”.


18 posted on 06/28/2007 8:33:47 AM PDT by Sig Sauer P220
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To: 3AngelaD
dump lindsey--draft Gresham Barrett.

Or call Rahm Emmanuel and encourage him to vet a moderate Dem for Lindsey's spot. I'll vote for him.

19 posted on 06/28/2007 8:40:30 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ...

ping


20 posted on 06/28/2007 8:45:59 AM PDT by gubamyster
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