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Alien ideals frame GOP immigration stand
THE POLITICO ^ | June 26, 2007 | Douglas MacKinnon

Posted on 06/27/2007 2:30:44 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: muawiyah

“Sure, put a woman in there and she’s happy?”
You’re saying that we screwed up the deal?
What deal? Where do you get such notions?
You seem to make a giant leap in assuming that you know what would make Ruth Ginsberg happy (as if it had any relevency anywhere.)
Were you or are you privy to some unspoken deal that had been conjured that had been drafted to constitute an even trade of Miers for Ginzzy? (as if it had any relevancy anywhere)


21 posted on 06/27/2007 4:36:39 PM PDT by So Circumstanced
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To: So Circumstanced

Ask her yourself.


22 posted on 06/27/2007 4:39:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Ask whom? Ginsberg? Miers?


23 posted on 06/27/2007 4:42:00 PM PDT by mathprof
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To: mathprof

Look, your the guy who sought to give the Liberals the edge they needed, so live with the guilt. Ginzburg is still there because of your misdirected anxieties, and it’s not likely we can replace her with someone even slightly less Stalinist in her thinking.


24 posted on 06/27/2007 4:43:43 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

What are you talking about?? In the case of Miers, W gave croynism a bad name. When some of us (not me) opposed the Dubai ports deal we were ridiculed and pretty much called xenophobic by W. Now we have the amnesty bill. Are we supposed to march like lemmings to the current tune?


25 posted on 06/27/2007 4:51:16 PM PDT by mathprof
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To: muawiyah

Please take a breath, don’t be so hasty and reckless, and explain for us just how someone about this forum “sought to give some Liberals the edge they needed.”

And this time, try not to use techniques ( that the rest of us aren’t up to speed on) like Ruth Ginzberg
mind -reading, or crazy -leap unsubstantiated- wild- assumptions to posit your reply.

“Your” should be “You’re” in one of your posts. The error may not have been made,if you had taken time to give constructive dialog a chance.


26 posted on 06/27/2007 5:08:50 PM PDT by So Circumstanced
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To: neverdem
I am a longtime admirer of George W. Bush. He is a good man

I no longer share this view.

27 posted on 06/27/2007 5:08:59 PM PDT by montag813
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To: So Circumstanced

You really don’t have a response do you.


28 posted on 06/27/2007 5:12:58 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: mathprof
The folks who got carried away on the Dubai deal were ridiculed for being unable to do the math.

The issue was about priority of loading/unloading, and was worth about $100 a year profit for each gantry crane involved.

In the end the Mob still owns the docks.

29 posted on 06/27/2007 5:14:51 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: neverdem
Every middle class person of so-called Hispanic descent that I know here in California is against this bill.

These are "Hispanics" who are or were already voting Republican.

30 posted on 06/27/2007 5:16:59 PM PDT by happygrl (Dunderhead for HONOR)
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To: muawiyah

You’ve been whittled down to half sentences now.

Come back some other time.


31 posted on 06/27/2007 5:18:33 PM PDT by So Circumstanced
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To: Soul Seeker

Miers is more conservative than O’Conner. Unfortunatelly, she is not conservative enough for the base.


32 posted on 06/27/2007 5:21:23 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: muawiyah
Trust me, I can do the math.

Here's what W said about the Dubai ports: "I really don't understand why it's OK for a British company to operate our ports but not a company from the Middle East..."

When we opposed the Miers appointment we were sexist.

Quoting for the article that led to this thread: Going down the GOP line, Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina generically suggested I'm a "bigot." Homeland Security Chief Michael Chertoff (who should be protecting our nation and not attaching his nose to the president's backside) basically said I would prefer to kill illegal aliens. Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez suggested that I am in favor of "mass deportation," and former Bush speechwriter Michael Gerson said I'm "anti-immigrant."

I expect language like the above from the libs I'm surrounded by in my job, not from a leaders of my party.

33 posted on 06/27/2007 5:27:20 PM PDT by mathprof
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To: muawiyah
It takes a smart guy like Alito to do the trick, and we're fresh out of smart guys.

You say that like it's some kind of excuse rather than an illustration of the paucity the depth of your bench. 

34 posted on 06/27/2007 5:38:54 PM PDT by zeugma (Don't Want illegal Alien Amnesty? Call 800-417-7666)
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To: muawiyah

We’re out of smart guys? Well isn’t that a confident attitude.

Conservatives don’t need that kind of defeatism, and I’m not going to agree with it. Insecure attitudes like that are what’s driven the GOP to act like liberals and lose votes.


35 posted on 06/27/2007 5:43:43 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (THOMPSON NEEDS TO CLARIFY HIS POSITION ON THE SPP BEFORE I SUPPORT HIM.)
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To: neverdem
it has lost highly educated Hispanic-American voters like my wife and her friends -- a group rarely polled by the media or political parties -- who tend to lean conservative on many issues but feel ignored and belittled by the White House

Messsage from GW Bush to all Hispanics: Hey amigos, we understand that you all risked your lives to come here and clean our toilets for us. Trent, Lindsay, Teddy, Laura and I want you to know we really appreciate it, too.

36 posted on 06/27/2007 5:55:07 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: muawiyah
Ginsburg has complained about being lonely as the only woman on the court. Add another, and she would be overcome with the feminist warm-fuzzies and have to be carried out feet first. If you think she would have retired, you have a lot to learn about women. Not that we all don't of course. But this one is pretty obvious.
37 posted on 06/27/2007 6:00:29 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard
She's a sick woman; literally rotting from the inside out.

I doubt she'd gotten any warm and fuzzies with Meirs.

38 posted on 06/27/2007 6:05:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

“You should also quit coming up with the Meirs nomination as instructive of anything whatsoever.”

Most would disagree with you. No parallels are perfect but then as now we see a White House with a ‘tin ear’ for the concerns of the base, and a base increasingly at odds with a White House that thinks it can buy off the base with foolish and unbelievable panders (example this week, the $4.4 billion on ‘enforcement’ which DeMint exposed as being partly use for the amnesty and which should be done in any case and not as a part of a ‘bargain’ on immigration).


39 posted on 06/27/2007 6:18:08 PM PDT by WOSG (Stop Z-visa amnesty!! Call the Senators, tell them to vote "NO": 202-224-3121, 1-866-340-9281)
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To: neverdem

Bush and the pro-amnesty Senators are living in a dream-world if they think only
‘anti-immigration’ people oppose this bad bill. I am married to an immigrant and work with immigrants daily.
I support legal immigration, including more employment-based immigration focus with a merit/point system,
along with curtailing/ending ‘chain migration’. I support limited temporary worker program as part of legal immigration.

I and most legal immigrants that I know oppose this bill strongly.


40 posted on 06/27/2007 6:23:39 PM PDT by WOSG (Stop Z-visa amnesty!! Call the Senators, tell them to vote "NO": 202-224-3121, 1-866-340-9281)
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