This is a dumb standard of victory according to which anyone can "prove we haven't won" at any time by picking up a gun and pointlessly firing in the general direction of a U.S. soldier. According to this standard of victory, we didn't defeat in Japan in 1945.
Hardly the same as what is occurring in Iraq... I think anyone who doesn’t have an agenda to push can see the difference between multiple firefights/deaths/injuries every day and one crazed lunatic shooting at someone.
Surely there's a difference of degree, but notice, that difference is unimportant to ReignOfError's definition of victory. Which is (therefore) a silly definition. Which was my point.