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To: inkling
First you said "[t]he Conservative movement was founded by libertarians". Now you say that "[t]he Libertarian Party was formed by Republicans."

Both statements are true. The Conservative Movement was founded by libertarians in 1964 and the Libertarian Party was formed by Republicans in 1971. NEOCONs have latched on to the word "conservative" the same as those other guys latched on to the word "gay".

Do you think that conservatism was just cooked up at the Cato Institute in the '80s or something?

No, it was cooked up in 1964. There were no "Conservatives" before 1964 and there are few today.

Liberatarianism is a rather modern invention that disagrees with the very old philosophy of conservatism in several areas.

Libertarianism predates Conservatism by two centuries. The founders of our Republic were Libertarians.

That is why I am a conservative and not a libertarian.

If you're not a libertarian you're not a consevative, you are a neocon.

Why not found your own movement instead of trying to hijack Buckley's Conservative Movement?
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120 posted on 06/27/2007 12:25:15 PM PDT by radioman
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To: radioman
Libertarianism predates Conservatism by two centuries. The founders of our Republic were Libertarians.

No, they were not. The Founders were thoroughly steeped in Lockean commowealth ideology, which is not nearly individualistic enough to qualify as "libertarianism" by any stretch of the term.

Besides, the Founders were Neo-Ciceronians....

125 posted on 06/27/2007 12:58:22 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Fred Thompson is Duncan Hunter without the training wheels)
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To: radioman
I suggest you read Russell Kirk's The Conservative Mind before you try and claim there were no conservatives before 1964
156 posted on 06/27/2007 3:36:50 PM PDT by scarface367 (Ron Paul; clueless on monetary economics, clueless on foreign policy)
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