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Supertanker grounded
Riverside Press-Enterprise (Subscription) ^ | 09:35 AM PDT on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 | John Asbury

Posted on 06/26/2007 12:02:29 PM PDT by granite

A firefighting supertanker jumbo jet has been grounded at its Victorville hub while fire officials investigate what caused the plane to make an emergency landing Monday night.

The DC-10 airtanker used by the state firefighting agency, Cal Fire, was forced to return to Victorville about 5:20 p.m. Monday after it struck the top of several trees while fighting the White forest fire in Kern County, according to a statement by Cal Fire.

The plane, which carries 12,000 gallons of water or fire retardant, struck severe turbulence near Bison Peak south of Tehachapi, but was able to apply power and fly to the Victorville airport.

AP
A modified DC-10 prepares to drop fire retardant on a wildfire near Idyllwild in 2006. The airtanker has been grounded after it struck the top of several trees while fighting the White forest fire Monday in Kern County, according to a statement by Cal Fire.

An investigation crew will conduct a complete structural overview of the plane this morning in Victorville as part of the incident investigation, according to the statement. The plane will remain grounded and out of service until the investigation is complete.

- John Asbury

jasbury@PE.com


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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aerospace; fire; il76waterbomber; iyushinwaterbomber; one; supertanker
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That didn't last long.
1 posted on 06/26/2007 12:02:34 PM PDT by granite
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To: granite; Aeronaut

Ping to grounding of fire fighting DC10


2 posted on 06/26/2007 12:17:37 PM PDT by tubebender (Large reward for person offering leads to my missing tag lines...)
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To: granite
A supertanker.. grounded at its Victorville hub while fire officials investigate what caused the plane to make an emergency landing..after it struck the top of several trees

Duh!!! Ya' think there might be an obvious cause and effect there??

Gotta change the flight profile folks. A DC-10 just doesn't handle ridge turbulance quite as well as an S-2 Tracker...

p.s. Where do I send my aviation consulting bill???

3 posted on 06/26/2007 12:40:07 PM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("Flying is like Life: Know where you are, where you're going, and how to get there." - 'Ol Dad)
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To: GoldCountryRedneck

Can you imagine the pucker factor?

Yikes.


4 posted on 06/26/2007 12:43:27 PM PDT by patton (19yrs ... only 4,981yrs to go ;))
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To: patton

Imagine what it would have been like on the ground as the jumbo clipped the trees!


5 posted on 06/26/2007 12:51:18 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: granite
while fire officials investigate what caused the plane to make an emergency landing

I would think that the Pilot would have caused the plane to make an emergency landing.

6 posted on 06/26/2007 12:51:34 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: GoldCountryRedneck
Well, at least there was a good reason.

Didn't Gray Davis ground tankers until enough damage was done to get US Taxpayer $$$?

7 posted on 06/26/2007 12:53:49 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: granite

Since this was already the topic of another thread I thought this might be something new, perhaps about another Exxon Valdez.


8 posted on 06/26/2007 12:55:31 PM PDT by RightWhale (It's Brecht's donkey, not mine)
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To: patton
Just reading this has caused my Naugahyde chair to become firmly attached.
9 posted on 06/26/2007 1:02:27 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (If General Patton was alive, he would slap many faces!!)
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To: gathersnomoss

LOL. I understand.


10 posted on 06/26/2007 1:04:14 PM PDT by patton (19yrs ... only 4,981yrs to go ;))
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To: tubebender; Tijeras_Slim; FireTrack; Pukin Dog; citabria; B Knotts; kilowhskey; cyphergirl; ...

11 posted on 06/26/2007 1:06:24 PM PDT by Aeronaut (Hebrews 13:4)
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To: granite

We should have at least half a dozen of these babies at every major airport in the state, standing by to fight the inevitable wildfires. That should be government priority number one. If we had responsible government, it would be.


12 posted on 06/26/2007 1:12:04 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Colorado Doug
I would think that the Pilot would have caused the plane to make an emergency landing.

... for a change of underwear, at least...

13 posted on 06/26/2007 1:19:19 PM PDT by Tallguy (Climate is what you plan for, weather is what you get.)
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To: Argus

If their going to insist on nap-of-the-earth bombing profiles, why not convert a few of those mothballed B-1B’s? Here you have a low-level bomber with a tremendous payload capacity, rather than a converted C-10 airliner (or is it a KC-10 tanker varient?). Put those B1’s on the flightline & you’ll have pilots lining up to fly them.


14 posted on 06/26/2007 1:22:10 PM PDT by Tallguy (Climate is what you plan for, weather is what you get.)
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To: granite
Opinion: World's Best Fire-Fighting Plane Ignored

A Soviet Ilyushin 76 (Courtesy Global Emergency Response, photo by Keith Smith)

15 posted on 06/26/2007 1:31:30 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Argus
We should have at least half a dozen of these babies at every major airport in the state, standing by to fight the inevitable wildfires. That should be government priority number one. If we had responsible government, it would be.

No sarcasm intended, WTF are you talking about, firefighting AC being the government's number one priority?

16 posted on 06/26/2007 1:31:57 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Beelzebubba
Imagine what it would have been like on the ground as the jumbo clipped the trees!

Bambi had to change underwear.
17 posted on 06/26/2007 1:37:58 PM PDT by Cheburashka (DUmmieland = Opus Dopium. In all senses of the word dope.)
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To: Argus
That should be government priority number one.

Really? I didn't read about federal government firefighting by air anywhere in the Constitution.

18 posted on 06/26/2007 1:40:24 PM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: GoldCountryRedneck

“Gotta change the flight profile folks. A DC-10 just doesn’t handle ridge turbulance quite as well as an S-2 Tracker...”

Jet passenger airliners don’t handle low level turbulence well at all. Which is why I’m so dissapointed at the Navy choosing a Boeing jetliner to replace the P-3 in the anti-sub role, which is almost all low level, all the time.


19 posted on 06/26/2007 1:43:28 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: DesScorp

Which is why I’m so dissapointed at the Navy choosing a Boeing jetliner to replace the P-3 in the anti-sub role

The rational I've heard from ASW folks is that there aren't airframes being built that could be modified that would fit the load/range/weapons - the C130H being the exception.

The cost of a mission-specific all-new design would have been prohibative, so the 737 was it.

The choice that frosted me years ago was the USCG having the swept-wing Falcon jets pushed down their throats.

My brother was a 'Coastie' Commander at the time and said it was all politics and it took quite awhile and $$$ to even try to integrate them. It just wasn't a mission 'fit'.

20 posted on 06/26/2007 1:59:42 PM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("Flying is like Life: Know where you are, where you're going, and how to get there." - 'Ol Dad)
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