[SierraWasp]

Do you look at this in the same ways if you contrast a populated area with hardly anyone knowledgeable about these things, compared to a more “wild” area that is not inhabited with humans everyday, compared yet again to a place of beauty, such as your land, that has been studiously groomed and cared for with all due regard for the “Natural Process?”

[oldenuff2no]

I live in the Peoples Republic of Ca, but a long ways from the cities. The problem with this states is that the mass of votes are from Frisco and Northern Mexico City, (otherwise known as LA)
These people who pass these laws do not live in the mountains or in the rural areas but we still have to put up with their ignorant BS!!!!
There is a constant undercurrent for Northern Calif. to split off from the south and together with southern Oregon form the new state of Jefferson. We will never be represented fairly in the state as it is currently situated. If every single voter from the other 80% of the state voted against the crap tree-hugger bills the overwhelming amount of votes from the two socialist cities will dictate to all of us what we must do on our own land. Sometimes I think we should surround the two major cities, cut off all water, electricity, and highways, and just sit back and wait for them to figure out if they really need us or not. I am tired of their uppity attitudes. They have allowed their own turf, the cities to become infested with gangs and racism and somehow think that gives them the right to tell everyone what to do, when to do it, and how high to jump!! My message to them is simple. Stay home, stay out of our affairs, and clean up your own messes.