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To: DaveTesla
Go try and sell non military useful products in China and see how free market they are.

LOL, you were saying....

The Ministry of Commerce of China released data from the first five months of 2007 showing that $25.26 billion was used in the period to support 15,072 newly established foreign investment enterprises. The dollar amount was a 10% increase over 2006, although the actual number of new ventures dropped 4%.

During the five-month period, the top ten countries (in terms of dollar amount) making investments were: Hong Kong, the British Virgin Islands, Japan, the Republic of Korea (South Korea), Singapore, the United States, the Cayman Islands, Samoa, Taiwan and Mauritius.

These 10 countries contributed 86% of all the money put into new Chinese ventures.

Take out the countries that are actually domestic sources and these United States are currently 4th or 5th.

And of course we have Wal-Mart operating in China. I imagine they're selling 'non-military useful products', some not even made in China!!

No, you're right, the introduction of Western ideas through trade isn't working at all to move China away from communism....

13 posted on 06/24/2007 5:39:06 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: billbears
So you want to sell them the rope do you?

China arming terrorists

New intelligence reveals China is covertly supplying large quantities of small arms and weapons to insurgents in Iraq and the Taliban militia in Afghanistan, through Iran.

U.S. government appeals to China to check some of the arms shipments in advance were met with stonewalling by Beijing, which insisted it knew nothing about the shipments and asked for additional intelligence on the transfers. The ploy has been used in the past by China to hide its arms-proliferation activities from the United States, according to U.S. officials with access to the intelligence reports.

Some arms were sent by aircraft directly from Chinese factories to Afghanistan and included large-caliber sniper rifles, millions of rounds of ammunition, rocket-propelled grenades and components for roadside bombs, as well as other small arms.

The Washington Times reported June 5 that Chinese-made HN-5 anti-aircraft missiles were being used by the Taliban.

According to the officials, the Iranians, in buying the arms, asked Chinese state-run suppliers to expedite the transfers and to remove serial numbers to prevent tracing their origin. China, for its part, offered to transport the weapons in order to prevent the weapons from being interdicted.

The weapons were described as “late-model” arms that have not been seen in the field before and were not left over from Saddam Hussein’s rule in Iraq.

U.S. Army specialists suspect the weapons were transferred within the past three months.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/article/20070615/NATION04/106150051&SearchID=73285174398064

15 posted on 06/24/2007 5:45:19 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: billbears
"And of course we have Wal-Mart operating in China."

Gee a marketer of Chinese garbage selling Chinese goods in China.

Who da thunk it?

Wal-Mart has already been run out of South Korea and Germany. They will be out of China soon.

Official Union in China Says All Wal-Marts Are Organized
16 posted on 06/24/2007 5:54:46 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: billbears
“During the five-month period, the top ten countries (in terms of dollar amount) making investments were: Hong Kong, the British Virgin Islands, Japan, the Republic of Korea (South Korea), Singapore, the United States, the Cayman Islands, Samoa, Taiwan and Mauritius. “

That’s complete bunk.

The United States has spent Billions (about 5 billoin so far) rebuilding Iraq.

And left tons of blood on the ground doing so.

19 posted on 06/24/2007 6:15:24 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: billbears
A state-owned Chinese oil company is not a western idea it’s communism.
21 posted on 06/24/2007 6:38:15 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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