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Feed costs rise with demand for corn
pantagraph ^ | June 24, 2007 | Betsy Blaney

Posted on 06/24/2007 10:10:56 AM PDT by Dan Evans

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To: Dan Evans
The public is not demanding ethanol fuels. The government is.

The public is demanding that we become more energy independent and there are a lot of options on the table and a lot of big fights going on over which *mix* of products will be used. The government is just responding to the fact that the most powerful nation on Earth would be worth zip quite soon if our energy supplies got cut off.
21 posted on 06/24/2007 10:30:24 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Maceman

I own Potash of Saskatchewan stock...they just split 2 for 1....


22 posted on 06/24/2007 10:30:47 AM PDT by Renfield
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To: RetSignman

No kidding. Deer corn at Walmart jumped from $4.00 per 40-lb bag a year ago to $5.77 this week. Looks like venison is going to be more expensive too.


23 posted on 06/24/2007 10:32:07 AM PDT by Renfield
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To: Clara Lou
It’s insane to use food to make fuel. But somebody’s pockets [not mine, anyway] are being lined.

One of the biggest is ADM. They have given millions in cash to politicians.

ADM five year stock price

24 posted on 06/24/2007 10:33:09 AM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: Dan Evans

>What a plan. Make a few bucks off the ruination of America

Stupid reply. Grow up.


25 posted on 06/24/2007 10:33:13 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Parmy
Now look at what has happened!!!!

Just participated in a lake cleanup a couple of months ago. Now when I see someone drinking water from those little plastic bottles they sell in the grocery stores.....I want to shoot them.
26 posted on 06/24/2007 10:34:24 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: SpaceBar

LOL. Higher corn commodity prices as “conspiracy theory kook stuff.” My trader friends at the Chicago Merc will be rolling on the floor when I tell them.


27 posted on 06/24/2007 10:35:04 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: P-40
The government is just responding to the fact that the most powerful nation on Earth would be worth zip quite soon if our energy supplies got cut off.

How "independent" are we going to be if we have to start importing half our food from other countries?

28 posted on 06/24/2007 10:35:36 AM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: airborne

I suspect the professional traders have already factored in tight supplies. The time to go long on corn futures would have been 6 months ago.

It’s going to get much worse. The western end of the corn belt, from Kansas to the Dakotas, and much of Iowa, are drowning in excess rain, and many acres haven’t been planted to corn this year. Some areas may not even dry out in time to plant soybeans. The other end of the belt—the southeast and mid-atlantic states—are suffering from a severe drought. It wouldn’t surprise me to see corn at $7.50/bushel by October.


29 posted on 06/24/2007 10:35:53 AM PDT by Renfield
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To: RetSignman
Too bad we can’t drill for corn.

We could drill for oil in a lot of places but state and federal politicians won't allow it. But they can mandate that we burn food.

30 posted on 06/24/2007 10:38:06 AM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: P-40
>Earth would be worth zip quite soon if our energy supplies got cut off.

Drop in the bucket. - all of this isn’t worth snot to such a concept.

Develop nuclear energy in every locale in America, drill aggressively in America, tax incentives for twice as many refineries right here and make a real difference.... - or do this face saving uber expensive showcasing that won’t - do - spit.

31 posted on 06/24/2007 10:38:11 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Dan Evans

And just why will we be doing that?


32 posted on 06/24/2007 10:38:24 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: bill1952
Stupid reply.

Tell me what is smart about investing in corruption of the economy? It makes as much sense as shorting airline stocks before 9/11.

33 posted on 06/24/2007 10:42:28 AM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: P-40

Ethanol is a JOKE. It takes 140 gallons of fossil fuel to produce 300 galons on ethonal fuel. The aquifer depletion for corn is criminal. For equivalent milage compared to gasoline this crap is $10.47 a gallon !!!!!
Now we factor in the higher prices for your food and it is over. The ethonal refineries can’t evrn cash flow with HUGE subsidies.
We need oil!!! We need refineries, We need to raise hell. Drill off shore— Drill Alaska. Get that oil in IRAQ but by God get me to work!!!


34 posted on 06/24/2007 10:43:03 AM PDT by Dutch Tulip
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To: bill1952
Drop in the bucket.

Have you looked at the production graphs for biofuels, from various sources, these past few years? That is a mighty big drop for a relatively new commercial industry.
35 posted on 06/24/2007 10:44:08 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: P-40
And just why will we be doing that?

In order to grow enough food for fuel to make a dent in our crude imports, we will need to use about half our farm land. It is starting to happen now and food prices are already starting to rise, not just in America but world-wide.

36 posted on 06/24/2007 10:46:17 AM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: Dutch Tulip

And I guess you have a respectable source for all...that?


37 posted on 06/24/2007 10:46:24 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Dan Evans
In order to grow enough food for fuel to make a dent in our crude imports

With the new technologies coming online all the time, your worries are way overblown.
38 posted on 06/24/2007 10:49:44 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Dan Evans

Stupid reply.

Tell me what is smart about investing in corruption of the economy? It makes as much sense as shorting airline stocks before 9/11.

I would suggest you get Thomas Sowells book ‘Basic Economics’
and educate yourself on the workings of the free market. With a basic understanding of supply and demand, most people could see this coming from MILES away.


39 posted on 06/24/2007 10:50:41 AM PDT by Mama Shawna
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To: Dan Evans

Hay is also going up fast. More acres are being taken out of hay production and being put into corn production because of the lure of Ethanol. Never mind that the farmer has lots more prep work on the production of corn, and only ONE crop a year. More trips up and down the field cultivating, etc. Hay can produce 3-5 crops a year in the same time period.
Wait until the cities find out how much water corn takes for ONE crop/season.


40 posted on 06/24/2007 10:51:04 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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