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Please check out Phsstpok’s EXCELLENT Sunday Talk Show PRE-Thread. It’s a great way to hear analysis on why the DBM picks the guests, what they’ll probably discuss, and other pertinent facts. Also, check out his blog!

2 posted on 06/24/2007 5:15:44 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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FReeper Bahbah did the selections for last week. Congratulations to our winners! Read about it here (post 364)!
3 posted on 06/24/2007 5:16:16 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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Thanks AB for the thread here and P for the pre-thread which once again was a work of art. It will be interesting to see how Idaho man treats Pat and to see which Pat emerges from his many personalities.
9 posted on 06/24/2007 5:36:43 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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Morning y’all

Wow .. Dianne Feinstein sure is spinning on Fox


33 posted on 06/24/2007 6:14:04 AM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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I know looking back over 35 years it seems the Vietnam era media was the same as this media, it was not.

Huge difference between Johnson giving preferential access to those reporters deemed “Friendly,” and the direct coordination of “News” coverage between the DNC and the current “News” media. Cronkite reported what he saw, he did not ask the DNC what he should be saying.

NO President prior to 2004 ever had one of the 3 major new networks, in addition to one of the major new magazines, acting as campaign outlets for his foe. None of them ever let a campaign operative plant a phony “news” story based on obviously fraudulent documents that the “News” organization was warned against using.

A Presidential speech use to be a news event. NOW days the only place you can get the text of a President’s speech, other then the State of the Union, is the White House Website.

Use to be a Presidential speech drove the new cycle for days. NOW it last about 6-12 hours.

It use to be the person quoted was quoted. With the statement put in context. Now days they paraphrase people or only selectively quote partial sentences. I have Even see examples, where reporter simply attributed statements to the govt source that the source never actually said. They simply used the press release or statement and put their own personal spin on the topic.

So looking back in hind site, fallible memory can imagine that the Vietnam era media was just like this one, it in fact was nothing like this one.

386 posted on 06/24/2007 10:41:57 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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Look. I know you have your personal opinions. And your dogma doesn’t work unless you have a reason to blame Bush for everything. But it not 1972 and Iraq is not Vietnam and this is not the news media you grew up with.

Rush Limbaugh made the observation that in his whole life he has NEVER seen a “News” media be as transparently partisan has they have become since the Clinton years.

I think you have simply allowed your personal dislike for the President to crowd out any serious consideration of how the 27-7 news cycle and “advocacy Journalism” has seriously corrupted and changed the “News” media.

409 posted on 06/24/2007 11:17:21 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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