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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 24 June 2007
Various big media television networks ^ | 24 June 2007 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 06/24/2007 5:14:54 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: doug from upland
I”m with you all the way Doug you have done your homework and deserve to be heard, lets hope it happens.(just don’t ever underestimate what they can pull off)
401 posted on 06/24/2007 11:05:24 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: rodguy911

I was in the courtroom last year when Judge Aurelio Munoz said that he would entertain no motions to prevent Hillary from testifying. He then looked at Kendall and said, “Did you hear that, Mr. Kendall.”


402 posted on 06/24/2007 11:06:36 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Cedric

Must be nothing else makes sense.


403 posted on 06/24/2007 11:07:49 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: kabar

Exactly!!


404 posted on 06/24/2007 11:09:12 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: rodguy911

Poor guy. He’s twisting himself into knots, spewing the most mindless, claptrap; all to rationalize his obvious involvement in “the trade”.

Pray for bray and his coyotes!


405 posted on 06/24/2007 11:11:49 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: bray
Sorry, “Bray”, your post no sense to me.

I do get a little tired of greed-head libertarians, posing as conservatives on FR and elsewhere.

There’s nothing “conservative” about illegal immigration. Nor is there anything “conservative” about the “anything for a buck” philosophy you espouse.

I am for capitalism when its good for the USA, and against it when it isn’t.

Unlike you, I don’t admire greedy millionaires who put profit ahead of country. Just as the slaveholders had to give up their slaves and pay them money, the greedy employers should be forced to give up their cheap illegal immigrant labor and be satisfied with 9.5% profit instead of 10%.

406 posted on 06/24/2007 11:12:32 AM PDT by pablo H (Remember '96- No more Doles!)
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To: Chuck Dent
Businesses cannot be expected to objectively operate in any manner other than to maximize profits. It is neither their orientation nor obligation to be "interested" in the welfare of our country.

That is part of the problem with the multinational corporations. They have no alliegence to any country. Some even ban the playing of national anthems at stockholder meetings. They will advocate policies that can be detrimental to this country, including immigration and they have the money to wield influence.

407 posted on 06/24/2007 11:12:33 AM PDT by kabar
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To: doug from upland
I hear what you are saying but in the Clintons(evil IMHO) mind, that just means they have to get rid of the judge.(or seek another venue with a friendlier judge) It wouldn't be the first time they have done something like that.

Remember these people scare mobsters! They are beyond the law and everything it stands for and have proven it time and again.

408 posted on 06/24/2007 11:13:19 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: kabar
Look. I know you have your personal opinions. And your dogma doesn’t work unless you have a reason to blame Bush for everything. But it not 1972 and Iraq is not Vietnam and this is not the news media you grew up with.

Rush Limbaugh made the observation that in his whole life he has NEVER seen a “News” media be as transparently partisan has they have become since the Clinton years.

I think you have simply allowed your personal dislike for the President to crowd out any serious consideration of how the 27-7 news cycle and “advocacy Journalism” has seriously corrupted and changed the “News” media.

409 posted on 06/24/2007 11:17:21 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: rodguy911

True. The underground economy in California, as estimated by the Internal Revenue Service and State Employment Development Department,is estimated to be $60 to $140 billion per year. Source: http://www.edd.cahwnet.gov/taxrep/txueoind.htm


410 posted on 06/24/2007 11:21:35 AM PDT by gpapa
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To: pablo H

Let me help you get ahead of the “curve” here; Bray is the king of false choices:

If you’re pro-border enforcement, you’re anti-capitalism!

Either workers earn over $50K or they’re slaves!

Either farmers employ illegals or the farmers go bankrupt!

If you don’t favor unbridled Free Markets you’re a Marxist!

The list is endless, it seems....

Pray for bray and his coyotes!


411 posted on 06/24/2007 11:29:30 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: MNJohnnie
Look. I know you have your personal opinions. And your dogma doesn’t work unless you have a reason to blame Bush for everything. But it not 1972 and Iraq is not Vietnam and this is not the news media you grew up with.

I know the difference, do you?

Rush Limbaugh made the observation that in his whole life he has NEVER seen a “News” media be as transparently partisan has they have become since the Clinton years.

I'm older than Rush. The news media hated Nixon even before Watergate. They were just as transparently partisan then as in the Clinton era.

I think you have simply allowed your personal dislike for the President to crowd out any serious consideration of how the 27-7 news cycle and “advocacy Journalism” has seriously corrupted and changed the “News” media.

"Advocacy Journalism” has been more than counterbalanced by greater access to information, primary and otherwise.

412 posted on 06/24/2007 11:30:03 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Chuck Dent

Thanks.

I hadn’t heard or read your idea before.

But in like manner of following the money, why assume that most of them work?


413 posted on 06/24/2007 11:30:58 AM PDT by saveliberty (Prayer blizzard for Tony and Jill Snow and their family.)
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To: gpapa

That is huge!!


414 posted on 06/24/2007 11:31:14 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: rodguy911

That’s what she said.


415 posted on 06/24/2007 11:35:00 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: Chuck Dent
What ever happened to national allegiance?

"Human Events Magazine has reported that the top 100 American corporations were nearly unanimous in rejecting the suggestion, made by Ralph Nader, that they "establish a regular practice, at every annual shareholders meeting, of reciting the Pledge of Allegiance to the American Flag." Only one of the 100 corporations actually accepted the suggestion — Ohio-based Federated Department Stores Incorporated."

416 posted on 06/24/2007 11:38:16 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Chuck Dent; kabar; indylindy; calcowgirl; stephenjohnbanker
What's the civil liability for these representatives/agents (cops, etc) who fail to enforce laws dealing with illegal immigration.....

.....the key to defeating illegal aliens is civil (citizen) action in the form of class-action lawsuits. Illegal immigration is all about $$$. Right now, the payoff accrues to facilitators; change the calculus by creating economic incentives to deport, and look how many people will get in on THAT business..........

N-i-c-e take, Chuck.

I don't know how many times I've outlined the MO we should use---particularly with regard to (a) states and municipalities misusing tax-exempt proceeds from bond referenda, (b) banks misuing the sactioning power of the FDIC, and (c) financial bonding companies encouraging wrongdoing, etc.

That's just for starters. The flaunting of laws here is most egregious, and falls in several areas......ideal subjects for class action suits.

States and municipalities advertising and constructing ballot referenda for tax-exempt municipal, transportation and highway bonds, municipal school bonding, utilities bonding, and the like, are ignoring fraudulent voting by illegals, ignoring the use of fraudulent documentation, and misleading tax-exempt investors. These are gross violations of fiduciary responsibility.

Civil action should ensue on several fronts.

Bonding agents for tax-exempt municipal transportation and highways, municipal school bonding, utilities bonding, and the like, are ignoring illegal activities. Most bonding agents conducting municipal business are registered broker-dealers and members of the National Association of Securities Dealers (NASD) and the Securities Investor Protection Corporation (SIPC).

Civil action should ensue on several fronts.

Banks doing bonding business with states and municipalities conducting illegal activity are violating their fiduciary duties, and jeopardizing bank patrons, shareholders, and depositors.

Civil action should ensue on several fronts.

417 posted on 06/24/2007 11:43:52 AM PDT by Liz (It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong. Voltaire)
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To: Liz
Great post,I have always said if the illegals immigration debacle is changed it will happen locally not by the
Feds.
418 posted on 06/24/2007 11:47:25 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: Phsstpok; All

Welcome to the party, pal!

You’re late!

How are you doing?

Folks, we met up in Florida for about ten minutes at lunch at the convention. My wife and kids got to talk to Phsstpok for a few minutes on the phone. That was it.

Microsoft has got to start having conventions in far less fun places than Orlando!


419 posted on 06/24/2007 12:09:36 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: rodguy911
Well time for me to depart to eat dinner

Roast lamb this week and pancakes/fruit and ice cream for sweet


420 posted on 06/24/2007 12:21:07 PM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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