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To: TheTruthAintPretty
"We have to understand you can fight the war (on terrorism) and lose everything if you have no civil liberties left when you get through fighting the war," said Lamberth...

Precisely what instances can Judge Lamberth point to in the past where we have had "no civil liberties left" when we finished fighting the war?

Is he referring to Lincoln and habeas corpus?

Is he referring to FDR and Quirin?

Or is he just making it up as he goes?

5 posted on 06/23/2007 8:19:43 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: okie01

There is an interesting episode playing out here. First...this war won’t end this year or next or in ten years. We will be sitting here in 2020...with the war still in full swing. Second....there will likely be more 9-11’s...with thousands more Americans killed by madness in the Islamic community. Third...while the American public will pump up the talk on action...more internal surveillance and more executive actions will be taken with questionable constitutional authority. We will eventually train ourselves to simply look the other way and not question the actions of the government. Fourth...eventually...a presidency down the road...in twenty-odd years...either Democrat or Republican...will take some actions that we today would absolutely never stand for...but we will have conditioned ourselves by that point to just accept it. By that point...the enemy will have made his point upon our society and changed the constitution without ever allowing us to vote on the change.

Until society and the executive are willing to take “all actions necessary” outside our borders...this doesn’t end. I don’t see “all actions” being taken today...nor do I see us going to the “ends of the earth”. So....sit and simply watch as time goes by...this will not be country that you grew up in.


16 posted on 06/23/2007 11:33:01 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: okie01

Those wars had definable ends. This one does not. Any rights we allow the government to infringe for 50 years or more, will be infringed permanently.


47 posted on 06/24/2007 4:57:20 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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