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To: FastCoyote

FC,

I missed the part in the account of the stoning
of Stephen where he was armed with a Saturday
Night Special and managed to get off a couple
shots at the Saul before succumbing to the
stoning...

ampu


1,683 posted on 07/01/2007 6:49:19 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Admin Moderator; Religion Moderator
Mystery of History - Secret Societies (Mormons are a Cult per US News)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1858717/posts

Pulled on 07/01/2007 8:04:10 PM PDT by Admin Moderator, reason:

Enough of this crap.

AM, take a lesson from the RM. He/She has much more class.

1,684 posted on 07/01/2007 8:25:10 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; All
You guys are killing me! I’m finding it impossible to go back 500 posts and try to respond to all these things, but since this is the most recent post, I’ll bite. Note, I’m sorry if I’m not responding to all posts directed toward me, more and more I’m finding that my time is not my own so reluctantly, I will need to bow out more than I have and assume a more lurking posture, at least for awhile. My apologies.

Now, as to Joseph firing his weapon during his murder at Carthage...

Do you equally condemn Peter, the one whom the Savior made his “rock” and built His church upon. He nearly split the head of a Roman in twain with his sword while defending Jesus, but only took off an ear instead. Remember that Joseph had 3 others in the Jail with him. Is he not allowed the same human compassion and love toward his brethren in defending them?

After Hyrum was hit in the head and fell to the floor, crying "I am a dead man", and seeing the immediate demise of the others as well, Joseph then tried to jump into the crowded mob below so that the others would be left alone upstairs. It worked. Joseph was dead from fire below and from the door behind, before he hit the stones below the jail. The others were left behind.

The mob had achieved their aim, or at least thought so. The Church did not disintegrate as hoped, but strengthened in their resolve and efforts. Similarly, the same thing seems to happen on this list day in and day out. You cannot shake the faith when it is given by the Holy Ghost and not Man. All you tend to accomplish is a greater determination to defend and bear testimony of the Truth of Jesus Christ and His restored Gospel.... Something which I guess feeds the FR beast... for lack of a better term.

It would seem the Illinois mob should have hearkened to the words of Gamaliel in Acts 5: Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought: But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.

1,691 posted on 07/01/2007 8:55:04 PM PDT by sevenbak (After the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers... Acts 24:14)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

FC,

“I missed the part in the account of the stoning
of Stephen where he was armed with a Saturday
Night Special and managed to get off a couple
shots at the Saul before succumbing to the
stoning...

ampu”

Then you obviously also missed the part where after Judas betrayed Jesus, Simon Peter cuts off the ear of the slave Malchus, servant Caiaphas, the high priest. Jesus then said “all who live by the sword shall die by the sword”, whereupon Jesus also stuck a shiv in Malchus for good measure before jumping out a window.

Unless ya knows your Joseph Smith inspired Mormon theology, this wouldn’t make any sense at all.


1,703 posted on 07/01/2007 9:51:37 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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