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To: jude24

But you can prove that Joseph Smith was a false prophet. I gave you two examples. You can examine them to your ability if it’s important to you to determine the truth of Smith as a prophet. What you said is that you can’t disprove someone is a prophet — I say you can with very little work in Joseph Smith’s case.

You are smart enough to know that there is a difference between prophecy in scripture and some random preacher’s comments. The scripture of the Mormon church from Joseph
Smith demonstrably has false prophecies and inaccuracies in it. Demonstrate this to me with prophecy in the Bible; something as clearly false as Joseph Smith’s prophesy that a man would go on a mission who died before he ever left on that mission.

You say that Josephus was “pious” — he wasn’t a Christian at all Jude. Look it up. Simple mention of Jesus in a contemporary document by a non-Christian. Show me something like that for the Mormon idea that Christ visited the indians and that the indians were Jewish.


153 posted on 06/23/2007 5:38:47 PM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: Greg F
You say that Josephus was “pious” — he wasn’t a Christian at all Jude. Look it up. Simple mention of Jesus in a contemporary document by a non-Christian.

I said Josephus's passage on Christ is believed to be a pious forgery. Many scholars (with some good arguments) believe that the statement was forged by well-meaning Christians.

What you said is that you can’t disprove someone is a prophet — I say you can with very little work in Joseph Smith’s case.

No; what I said is that Mormonism is a matter of faith, and faith can't really be disproved. At best, you can challenge assumptions and expose internal inconsistencies - but those are generally convincing only to those already convinced of your own presuppositions.

154 posted on 06/23/2007 5:42:56 PM PDT by jude24
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