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To: DanielLongo
The common Christian view of the 12 thrones, in Matt 19:28, I believe, is that the apostles and saints will be rulers of some type in heaven. In this case "judging" is a term like Judges in ancient Israel.

John 5:22-23 'For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgement unto the Son: That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father."

You place judgment and salvation in the hands of a man. That is bad enough. But couldn't you have picked George Washington or someone halfway decent rather than Joseph Smith? I'm being tongue in cheek since the blasphemy is the same either way. But in all seriousness, the lies, womanizing and pride in the history of Smith should be a big red flag to you spiritually . . . "danger, stay away, false, beware."

1,377 posted on 06/30/2007 6:04:39 AM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: Greg F
Greg,
You asked me for some Bible Study research showing the Greek word for believe in
John 3:16. I am posting it here, since private mail does not allow html formatting.
Anyone else can read or skip.
 
best,
ampu
 
 
4100 πιστεύω [pisteuo /pist·yoo·o/] . From 4102; 6:174; 849; 4409; 248 occurrences; translates as “believe” 239 times, “commit unto” four times, “commit to (oneÂ’s) trust” once, “be committed unto” once, “be put in trust with” once, “be commit to oneÂ’s trust” once, and “believer” once. 1 to think to be true, to be persuaded of, to credit, place confidence in. 1a of the thing believed. 1a1 to credit, have confidence. 1b in a moral or religious reference. 1b1 used in the NT of the conviction and trust to which a man is impelled by a certain inner and higher prerogative and law of soul. 1b2 to trust in Jesus or God as able to aid either in obtaining or in doing something: saving faith. 1bc mere acknowledgment of some fact or event: intellectual faith. 2 to entrust a thing to one, i.e. his fidelity. 2a to be intrusted with a thing.
v: verb
Theological Dictionary of the New Testament
Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, Abridged in One Volume
Goodrick-Kohlenberger
Authorized Version
Strong, J. (1996). The exhaustive concordance of the Bible : Showing every word of the test of the common English version of the canonical books, and every occurence of each word in regular order. (electronic ed.) (G4100). Ontario: Woodside Bible Fellowship.
 
 
4100.     πιστεύω pisteuō; from 4102; to believe, entrust:— believe(118), believed(73), believers(3), believes(29), believing(10), do(1), entrust(1), entrusted(6), entrusting(1), has faith(1).
Thomas, R. L. (1998, 1981). New American Standard Hebrew-Aramaic and Greek dictionaries : Updated edition (H8674). Anaheim: Foundation Publications, Inc.
 
4409 πιστεύω (pisteuō): ; 586; 4100; 6.174—1. 31.35 think to be true, to believe, implying trust (Mt 24:23; Lk 1:20; 1Co 11:18; Jas 2:19; Mk 16:13, 14 ); 2. LN 31.85 trust, faith, believe to the extent of complete trust (Mt 18:6; Ro 4:3; 1Pe 2:6; Mk 16:17 v.r.); 3. LN 31.102 have Christian faith, become a believer the Gospel (Ac 4:32; Ro 1:16; Mk 16:16 v.r.); 4. LN 35.50 entrust, put something into the care of another (Ro 3:2; Gal 2:7; 1Th 2:4; 1Ti 1:11; Tit 1:3)
verb
Swanson, A Dictionary of Biblical Languages With Semantic Domains: Hebrew (Old Testament)
StrongÂ’s Lexicon
Kittel, Theological Dictionary of the New Testament
Louw-Nida Greek-English Lexicon
varia lectio, variant reading in a manuscript
Swanson, J. (1997). Dictionary of Biblical Languages with Semantic Domains : Greek (New Testament) (electronic ed.) (GGK4409). Oak Harbor: Logos Research Systems, Inc.
πιστευω Strongs No: 4100
Transliterated: pisteuo; Pronounced: pist-yooÂ’-o
from 4102;  6:174; 
 &  in the — believe 239 times, commit unto 4 times, commit to (oneÂ’s) trust 1 time, be committed unto 1 time, be put in trust with 1 time, be commit to oneÂ’s trust 1 time, believer 1 time; 248 occurrences of Greek word in AV
1. to think to be true, to be persuaded of, to credit, place confidence in
a. of the thing believed
1. to credit, have confidence
b. in a moral or religious reference
1. used in the NT of the conviction and trust to which a man is impelled by a certain inner and higher prerogative and law of soul
2. to trust in Jesus or God as able to aid either in obtaining or in doing something: saving faith
3. mere acknowledgment of some fact or event: intellectual faith
2. to entrust a thing to one, i.e. his fidelity
a. to be intrusted with a thing
Theological Dictionary of the New Testament
verb
Different Translation(s) of this Greek word in the Authorized Version.
frequency
Authorized Version
Ephesians Four Group. (.). Greek Dictionary (electronic ed.) (2). :: ,.

1,412 posted on 06/30/2007 9:41:42 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Greg F
It says they will judge Israel. Why do you need to change that? That they “will be rulers in heaven”- isn’t that what you have charged against us as blasphemous?
1,440 posted on 06/30/2007 11:35:15 AM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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