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To: tantiboh
Are you asking this seriously, you who claims to know The Lord in your life?... Is not the free agency given to us still in effect? Will He force us to obey? Our own foolishness will be force enough when we stumble, as His Spirit works in us to will and to do of His good pleasure. The saved soul's will is turned toward the Lord, with some not completely at first, but in a lifetime He will lead us to turn from the world and to Him.
1,026 posted on 06/28/2007 9:11:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for those in the womb.)
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To: MHGinTN
Matt. 23: 37

37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

Try again

1,030 posted on 06/28/2007 9:19:43 PM PDT by DanielLongo (Don't tread on me)
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To: MHGinTN

Judas was an Apostle of the Lord. Would the Lord call as His chosen a man who had not accepted His divinity and had faith in Him? Yet even Judas exercised his agency and forsook the Lord.

My uncle joined with a group of born-again Christians. He was saved.

Then he left the group over a dispute and later sexually molested my cousins, his nephews, and is now a few years into a decades-long jail sentence.

He can yet repent and return to the Lord; but he exercised his agency and lost his way. If he fails to make the right choices, will he still be saved on account of his previous confession of faith?

These are thorny issues, of course, and not cleanly resolved; but I do not accept the thesis that, once we accept the Lord, our course is set. This is why the Lord counsels us, in Matthew 10:22, “...he that endureth to the end shall be saved.”


1,031 posted on 06/28/2007 9:24:23 PM PDT by tantiboh (...if...this work be of men, it will come to nought; But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it...)
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