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And I've answered. I don't know.

I know enough to grasp that no one really knows the answer to that question with enough certainty.

Thank you for your answer. You do not know. Yet you denegrate those who have a rational answer, but one which you begin with excluding. It is irrational to make such declarations as you have on this thread and then say you do not know if the universe had a beginning. That is a sorry state of understanding of science to affirm all who believe otherwise than you are to be disregarded or better yet regarded as buffoons. You opinion is condensed to, "I don't know how or if the universe had a beginning. I reject any rational attempt to an explaination from the start because the notion that you know the answer to the question is offensive to my sensibilities. I am totally ignorant of a rational answer to the question, but your answer cannot be the answer."

Elitist bigotry is the only term for your position. You drape yourself in the mantle of science and then use your ignorance to excuse its' shortcomings. Son, stay in the shallow end of the pool. You don't belong here.

Thank you for your answer. You do not know. Yet you denegrate those who have a rational answer, but one which you begin with excluding.

You may believe you have a rational answer, but I don't accept it because I don't believe anyone has a solid rational answer. In particular, I can't agree with your answer since you haven't given it to me, or your rational behind it.

It is irrational to make such declarations as you have on this thread and then say you do not know if the universe had a beginning.

What is irrational is getting on a thread about Intelligent Design and it's proposed opposition to biological evolution, and starting a discussion about the beginning of the universe. The two are not related.

Elitist bigotry is the only term for your position.

I smelled a trap when you first posed your question. You were seeking a way to pump your ego and "win a battle" by some method, and thought you could trap me by whatever answer I gave. It appears I was correct.

You drape yourself in the mantle of science and then use your ignorance to excuse its' shortcomings.

I believe that I understand evolution. I do not understand the beginnings of the universe. That you believe these two entirely different subjects are related is your ignorance and shortcoming.

Son, stay in the shallow end of the pool. You don't belong here.

And you call me an elitist bigot.

I've likely been on crevo threads longer than you've been on FR.