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To: ellery

Oh come on, Kerik is an issue, but a volunteer in South Carolina with a drug problem? What BS. Do they think Rudy was his supplier? The guy got busted and quit. Giuliani has an incredible crime fighting record on the federal and local level. That is just reality, whether he is a social liberal or not.


6 posted on 06/22/2007 12:25:14 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Williams

Six posts and the photo of Rudy in a dress hasn’t appeared?


7 posted on 06/22/2007 12:27:42 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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See post #8 -- if this were an isolated incident, I might agree with you. But it seems to me that Giuliani sure didn't do a good job fighting crime among his own hires. It appears that either Mr. Security didn't vet his own most important hires, or he turned a blind eye; Mr. Leadership appears to have a terrible record when it comes to choosing his closest associates.

Considering how vigorously he investigated and even punished others -- including many who were innocent -- this smacks of an egregious double-standard. Giuliani's approach to "law and order" would be more suited to a monarch who rules by personal whim than to a nation of equal protection under the law.

9 posted on 06/22/2007 12:55:37 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: Williams
Giuliani has an incredible crime fighting record on the federal and local level.

Giuliani has an incredible record aligning with corrupt operatives that he places in power positions.

His "crime fighting" record is great if you like living under an authoritarian who won't hesitate to seize your property or frisk you in public, all in the name of "security." Freedom? Oh, that's not important...

"Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every
single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion
about what you do and how you do it."
-- Rudy Giuliani, New York Times, March 17, 1994

13 posted on 06/22/2007 1:09:39 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Williams
Giuliani has an incredible crime fighting record on the federal and local level.

Irrelevant to the functions of the Presidency.

33 posted on 06/23/2007 8:19:44 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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