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Let’s be clear about my position. I am TOTALLY unimpressed by your article from the Village Voice rag.

Philadelphia Inquirer/Knight Ridder, Mar 22, 2007; Times Union, Apr 2, 1999; The Sunday Patriot, Mar 7, 1999; Village Voice Oct 6, 1998. There are many, many more. Take your pick... all say the same thing. Rudy and the Police repeatedly abused their power.

And yes I’ve met with the #2 in NY, currently Miami Police Chief, former Philly police chief. A consummate professional, not an abuser of rights. They did a great job cleaning up NYC, the Village Voice not withstanding. What a joke.

Wow! Really? I'm soooooo impressed! You met one guy, once, and that negates the hundreds of court cases that the Police LOST in court? Well thank you for correcting me! /sarcasm

You are in a fantasy world where a police crackdown on a corrupt NYC was a nazi blitzkrieg. Don't be impressed that the police officials who handled this are consummate professionals and that what they did passed legal muster in a liberal liberal state. Maybe you should post all the newspaper articles about the "abuses" at Guantanamo. There are many more such articles and many many from much bigger newspapers.

Believing NYC became a civil liberties nightmare is fringe thinking. I don't know why you didn't cite many NYT articles against the crackdown. There were many and they were idiotic.