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To: Jibaholic
No, you’re quite right, I am British, but you’re wrong on the secular front. Many freepers (and secularists within our own country) seem to use our low church attendance as proof that we are no longer a Christian nation, but I genuinely don’t feel it’s reflective. The one thing that is apparent is that religion is something particularly private for us. My parents, for example, are good God fearing people, yet they VERY rarely discuss religion (neither did my grandparents), and you’ll find most Brits are that way. You may disagree, but I don’t think we can judge someone’s beliefs by where they spend their Sunday mornings, nor should we try.

As to our spiraling out of control, we still have far lower serious crime (rape, murder etc) rates than the US, and I just don’t quite see how higher church attendance makes yours a better society (Have you watched MTV lately?!)? Seriously though, I would be interested in hearing your thoughts.

It is useful to remove race from the equation where poverty is concerned, but clearly black Americans and native Britons are markedly different peoples in every way imaginable, and where does your white underclass fit in?

I do, however, agree that marriage is key to stopping the rot, though the fact that the US has both higher church attendance and a higher divorce rate than Britain, begs further questions.

22 posted on 06/22/2007 2:30:13 PM PDT by maggies girl
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To: maggies girl; Jibaholic
Welcome to FreeRepublic.

Anthony Daniels, who writes under his own name and the pen name Theodore Dalrymple, is a serious man treating serious subjects — too uncommon these days. You can find samples of his work here, keyworded with anthonydaniels, dalrymple, or theodoredalrymple.

Of course you’ll find areas of disagreement, but IMHO he’s always worth reading.

23 posted on 06/22/2007 2:52:40 PM PDT by dighton
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To: maggies girl
As to our spiraling out of control, we still have far lower serious crime (rape, murder etc) rates than the US,

England has worst crime rate in world

"England and Wales have the highest crime rate among the world's leading economies, according to a new report by the United Nations.
The survey, which is likely to prove embarrassing to David Blunkett, the Home Secretary. shows that people are more likely to be mugged, burgled, robbed or assaulted here than in America, Germany, Russia, South Africa or any other of the world's 20 largest nations. Only the Dominican Republic, New Zealand and Finland have higher crime rates than England and Wales."

worst crime rate in world

25 posted on 06/22/2007 4:58:05 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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