Posted on 06/21/2007 8:49:05 AM PDT by drzz
An Iraqi defector has alleged on the BBC's Hardtalk programme that the Iraqi regime is continuing to hide weapons from UN weapons inspectors. Abbas al-Janabi defected in February this year after working for 15 years as an aide to Saddam Hussein's feared son Uday.
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nice find
Thanks, I had the idea when I saw the findings of another Freeper in CNN archives :
CNN - February 13, 1999
Saddam Hussein offered asylum
Iraqi President Saddam Hussein has offered asylum to bin Laden, who openly supports Iraq against the Western powers.
http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/meast/9902/13/afghan.binladen/
I have a simple question.
If Saddam had no WMDs anymore (”destroyed in 1998” according to the MSM), why did he expel the UN inspectors of the country in 1998 ?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/monitoring/146208.stm
Some other findinfs in BBC archives.
A speech of Saddam in 1998.Some people believe this regime was secular !!!
“Full transcript of Saddam Hussein’s speech
“Oh, unbelievers, if ye prayed for victory and judgment, now hath the judgment come to you: If ye desist from wrong, it will be best for you; if ye return to the attack, so shall we. Not the least good will your forces be to you even if they were multiplied: For verily God is with those who believe. [Koranic verse]
“Oh, great people; oh valiant personnel of the heroic Armed Forces; oh, glorious women, who teach lessons and virtue, may God’s peace, mercy, and blessings be upon you.
“It is the third day of your jihad, patience, chivalry, and high flags of victory, God willing. We are in the third day of the immortal days of conquest. These are glorious days. History will be proud of these days and those who make them: The great Iraqi people, and their bulwark and sword: The heroic army, which records these days with letters of light.
The devils of Zionism
“God wanted this day to show the ability of the nation and humanity in confronting the aggression and injustice. Afterward, the nation will discover the way that will entrench faith and confidence in hearts.
“This way, the bulwark of the nation will be strong in the face of the storms of evil and the ambitions of the devils in the United States and the devils of Zionism or Zionist devils, and those who are allied with them and give support to their evil against right. This light will be glaring and dazzling in the Arab nation - the nation of prophets and messengers and the cradle of messages. This way, humanity will be in a better state.”
“Oh, great people: Fate and history did not hesitate when they chose you as their symbol while hoisting your nation’s flag of jihad,” Saddam Hussein continued in his speech to the nation.
“They did not hesitate when they decided that you deserve to be the nation’s healthy and clear conscience. In fact, you are the nation’s head that does not miscalculate constants and basic principles, God willing.
“You were your Arab nation’s representatives, in addition your being the representatives of your people, against the foreigner, so as to express the position and great honour you and your nation deserve, and to show that the weakness of the nation, here or there, is not one of its constant or genuine characteristics, but it is the characteristic of those who make it only.
Continue resistance
“Thank and praise God for your success in this tribulation after God has upgraded your status through His banner, the banner of God is great. Continue resistance for you are its creators and people, and you are the people of right, patience, and the great and noble qualities.
“Continue resistance and attack in the name of God. God is great and ignominy be to the criminals.
“Oh, Arab mujahedin and strugglers, O people in our glorious Arab nation, Oh, faithful ones in our nation that God wants to be a justly balanced nation that might be a witness over humanity, and Prophet Muhammad, may God’s peace and blessing be upon him, be a witness over yourselves.
Will not bargain
“We swear by God that we will be as you have always known us to be. We are your people and brothers in the Iraq of virtue, jihad, faith, and glory.”
“By God, we will not bargain, or conciliate with evil at the expense of right. Nor would we let vice take the place of virtue. Nor would we fear other than God and kneel to anyone but Him Almighty.
“We will not apologise for our defence of right. With the will of God, great Iraq will triumph. This will be your triumph, you Arabs, the faithful people, and sincere friends in the world.
Shame and glory
“Shame on and damned be the supporters of devil, vice, and corruption. Glory to the virtuous martyrs, who are now in heaven with the Merciful God. Greetings to the Armed Forces men and to the men and women militants of the great Ba’th Party. Greetings to the personnel of the national security agencies who are the eyes of our great people.
“Greetings to every single individual in this fighting, steadfast, courageous, mujahid people, the people of great Iraq. Greetings to the Air Defence men, the high wall of Iraq who confront barbarism and its evil, destructive spirit, which violates our airspace to attack the lofty Iraq with long-range launch systems.
“Special greetings to the grandchildren of Zarqa al-Yamamah [A legendary woman from Arab history known for seeing things from a very long distance], the courageous men who sight flying objects and who provide the Air Defence men with the most accurate information at the proper time.
“Greetings of appreciation, amity, and boundless confidence in all people of al-Rafidayn [he land of the two rivers] the grandchildren of Abraham.
“Long live great Iraq.”Long live our glorious Arab nation.Long live Palestine, free, Arab, and dignified.
“God is great. God is great. Damned be the lowly.”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/monitoring/238070.stm
What are you going to believe? What Saddam actually said? Or what the MSM tells you?
Actually what Nancy Pelosi said...
She is sooooo nice !
Makes my dog looks smart
What? Can't be true. Saddam was ``Secular'' and Osama was ``Religious''. In the genius logic prevalent among thinking people today, this means they could never have worked together. It would be physically impossible.
Because Saddam is a LIAR!
The evidence published by a number of think tanks and governments indicates that Iraq still has chemical and biological weapons and that it could, with help, one day develop a nuclear device.
However, Iraq’s ability to use such weapons is in doubt and it would need significant help from outside before it could make a nuclear bomb.
Under UN Security Council Resolution 687, Iraq is not permitted to have chemical, biological and nuclear weapons, and missiles with a range greater than 150km.
It faces a dual problem if it seeks to defy the UN. One is to develop the weapons. The other is to deliver them.
From a variety of sources, these are the general assessments of the state of play:
Nuclear weapons
Iraq’s biggest problem is in getting hold of the fissile material (plutonium or enriched uranium) needed to make a nuclear bomb. This would probably have to come from the black market or a rogue government.
The latest assessment, from the International Institute for Strategic Studies in London, said that Iraq could assemble a nuclear weapon “within months” if it got the material from abroad.
Analysts say Baghdad has the desire and resources to build a nuclear weapon
But if it had to build facilities to do this itself, then it would take years.
A recent report in the New York Times claims that it had tried to import special steel to enable it to do just that.
The British Government published a document in 1998 saying that had it not been for the Gulf War, Saddam Hussein would have had the bomb by 1993. It said he could build a “crude air-delivered nuclear device in about five years” if he got the right equipment and material from abroad.
What is certain is that Baghdad has the desire, the talent and the resources to build a nuclear weapon given the time to do so
Charles Duelfer, CSIS
The US Defense Department said in 2001 that “Iraq would need five or more years and key foreign assistance” to enrich enough uranium for a device. German intelligence said in 2001 that it could take between three and six years.
However, a recent assessment from the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington concludes: “If Iraq were to acquire material from another country, it is possible that it could assemble a nuclear weapon in months.”
Charles Duelfer of the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) in Washington and former deputy executive chairman of the UN weapons commission Unscom told a US Senate Committee in February: “While precise estimates of the Iraqi nuclear programme are impossible, what is certain is that Baghdad has the desire, the talent and the resources to build a nuclear weapon given the time to do so.”
A document released by the United States in advance of President Bush’s UN speech on September 12th said that Iraq had in the past 14 months tried to buy thousands of aluminium tubes which could be used for centrifuges needed to produce bomb grade uranium.
Chemical
Iraq has used chemical weapons in battle, both against Iranian troops and against its own population in Halabja. Huge numbers of chemical weapons were destroyed by the UN after the Gulf War. But not all, it seems.
The IISS assessment is that Iraq kept hold of a few hundred tonnes of mustard agent and some supplies of VX and sarin from its pre Gulf War stocks. It could also have resumed manufacturing them.
Iraq has previously used chemical weapons in battle
The Carnegie report suggests: “Rough estimates conclude that Iraq may have retained up to 600 metric tonnes of agents, including mustard gas, VX and sarin. Approximately 25,000 rockets and 15,000 artillery shells with chemical agents also remain unaccounted for.”
The 1998, a British report said that 31,000 munitions and 4000 metric tonnes of precursor chemicals had not been properly accounted for.
As there has been no UN monitoring since 1998, it is impossible to determine exactly how much effort Iraq has put into the further development of chemical weapons but it clearly has the ability to produce them.
Biological
In 1996, Unscom destroyed a factory designed to make up to 50,000 litres of anthrax, botulin toxin and other agents a year.
The Institute of International Studies at Monterey in California estimates that Iraq retains the ability to resume production but it is unclear whether this has happened.
Possible biological weapons were destroyed
Until 1995, Saddam Hussein even denied that he had a biological weapons programme, but the British government report says that Iraqi production of BW agents had been “clearly understated.” Iraq presumably has the ability to produce BW again.
The IISS says that Iraq has probably retained BW agents from before 1991.
However, some sources question whether Iraq really intended using BW in battle. Charles Duelfer of the CSIS suggested that it might have been keeping them to use secretly against an enemy city “that would be near impossible to connect to Baghdad as the responsible actor.”
Delivery systems
By 1997, 817 of the 819 Scud rockets Saddam Hussein had were known to have been accounted for. The former UN inspector Scott Ritter has said that Iraq might have salvaged and manufactured enough components to build up a store of between five and 25 missiles.
The IISS agrees that he might have about a dozen Scuds hidden away.
These could reach Iraq’s close neighbours, including Israel, but not Europe.
Mr Ritter says Iraq isn’t capable of rebuilding its weapons programme
Overall, it should be added, Scott Ritter does not believe that Saddam Hussein has the ability to rebuild his weapons programme to any significant degree.
The Carnegie assessment quoted an unclassified CIA report to Congress that Iraq “probably retains a small covert force of Scud type missiles.”
Charles Duelfer told the Senate that in his view the number could be about 12 to 14.
Iraq has developed, as it is allowed to, two shorter range missiles - the al-Samoud and the Ababil - which have ranges below 150 km. The technology involved could later be used to develop longer range rockets.
It is unclear, though, whether Iraq has solved the problems of using missiles to deliver weapons of mass destruction.
It seems to have been working on developing shorter range means of delivery. The Washington Post has reported that in Operation Desert Fox in 1998, an RAF Tornado blew the roof off an Iraqi hanger to reveal a number of Czech made L-29 training jets which had been converted into pilotless drones.
There are also reports that Iraq still has chemical “drop tanks” to be used by its Mirage F-1 jets. Four of these were found and destroyed by Unscom. Eight others were never found.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2239536.stm
October 2, 2002
Iraq Believed Using Riverine Barges, Vessels, for WMD Storage, Development and Possible Launch
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Iraq/Oct0202.htm
C/O
http://128.121.186.47/ISSA/reports/Iraq/index.htm
Why aren’t we discussing Libya too?
Saddam’s MO moveed his illicit ware and staff to Libya many times during the Clinton Administration to avoid UN inspectors.
And to Sudan.
was... :o)
Ghost of Saddam :o)
“Scott Ritter does not believe that Saddam Hussein has the ability to rebuild his weapons programme to any significant degree.”
I think Saddam’s thugs compromised Ritters by taking him to meet some pre-adolescent girls in Iraq. I didn’t know children were WMD and apart of the UN inspections?
“You’ve spoke about having seen the children’s prisons in Iraq. Can you describe what you saw there?
The prison in question is at the General Security Services headquarters, which was inspected by my team in Jan. 1998. It appeared to be a prison for children — toddlers up to pre-adolescents — whose only crime was to be the offspring of those who have spoken out politically against the regime of Saddam Hussein. It was a horrific scene. Actually I’m not going to describe what I saw there because what I saw was so horrible that it can be used by those who would want to promote war with Iraq, and right now I’m waging peace.”
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0%2C8599%2C351165%2C00.html
Ping.
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