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1 posted on 06/20/2007 9:23:40 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Whether it is a deterent or not is debateable, but it does eliminate repeat offenders.


2 posted on 06/20/2007 9:25:49 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: neverdem

Two words - Kenneth McDuff


4 posted on 06/20/2007 9:40:57 AM PDT by The Lumster (USA - where the innocent have nothing to fear!)
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To: neverdem

I’m always amazed at the number of conservative who entrust the government with the power to kill.


7 posted on 06/20/2007 9:50:05 AM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: neverdem

Insightful post. Thanks.


8 posted on 06/20/2007 9:59:50 AM PDT by GOPJ (MSM's dumped inner city unemployment stories - Immigration bill conflicts and all....)
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To: neverdem
I've always considered the deterrance arguement to be a diversion, wasted energy. I don't think anyone can really prove whether the announced execution of some killer will cause others to re-think their actions. How do we know how many potential murder schemes were jettisoned by the plotter when he realized his own potential fate?

Now, whether a career criminal will rethink his potential crime.... I don't know. But I'd imagine once he's committed a murder, he'll have an attitude of 'they can only execute me once', and deterrance doesn't apply.

So, for criminals with nothing left to lose, it doesn't matter. For potential criminals... it may make all the difference.

10 posted on 06/20/2007 10:06:37 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: neverdem

Some years ago in an Italian neighborhood in New York a nun was raped and murdered. The perpetrator remained at large for a couple of weeks with dwindling hope of his apprehension. It was then reported that some organized crime figures were also on the trail. The murderer then turned himself in to the police rather than face the sure prospect of being executed by the Mob.


11 posted on 06/20/2007 10:23:46 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: neverdem
I was living in California in the 70's and my family was in law enforcement when the state struck down the death penalty.

Just in the jails alone, in the previous 12 years or so, 2 prison guards had been killed. In the first year after no death penalty, 12 were killed. And that was just in the prisons.the attitude seemed to be, if you are already a lifer, what's the penalty for killing a guard? Another life term?

I understand, a bit, why people think society shouldn't "kill" the killers - shouldn't take a life. It's a hard question, but the only question to be answered, after the reality of no deterrent to the killers, i.e, People ARE going to die - either the killers or more innocent people. So who's lives should be spared?

Californina got the message - and reinstated the death penalty

12 posted on 06/20/2007 10:28:53 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ( "...but you can't fool all of the people all the time." LINCOLN)
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“the risk of a criminal being executed for murder is so remote that, “It is hard to believe that fear of execution would be a driving force in a rational criminal’s calculus in modern America.”

Then we just need to raise the odds of a criminal being executed for murder to the point where everyone agrees that it is a deterrent - a true win-win situation


26 posted on 06/22/2007 6:56:00 AM PDT by 3Lean
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http://www.startribune.com/462/story/1293237.html

South Dakota first execution in 60 years to occur this week.

The prisoner wants to die; from what the story says and did not appeal.

It’s been a long two days, I don’t always know what should be posted as separate if anyone cares too.


32 posted on 07/09/2007 9:44:20 PM PDT by RGPII
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