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This Is Why I Support Mitt Romney (Rep. Pete Hoekstra)
RedState.com ^ | 06/20/07 | Pete Hoekstra

Posted on 06/20/2007 8:38:55 AM PDT by Reaganesque

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To: big'ol_freeper
So we make change by supporting the established laws of the country? Huh?

No Mitt is running for that office where the one is in a position to make the change!

61 posted on 06/20/2007 10:30:47 AM PDT by restornu (Romney keeps his eyes on the mission, and not on those who attacks his campaigned!)
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To: restornu
"Posting this must be a Freudian slip for those who don’t have cheerful offspring’s to celibrate!

Freudian slip: A verbal mistake that is thought to reveal an unconscious belief, thought, or emotion.

You need to post more on Romney threads. You make the case for not voting for Mitt better than I ever could.

62 posted on 06/20/2007 10:31:54 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper (It looks like one of those days when one nuke is just not enough-- Lt. Col. Mitchell, SG-1)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Well you are worst than comical because you know you are wrong and do not seek truth!


63 posted on 06/20/2007 10:32:35 AM PDT by restornu (Romney keeps his eyes on the mission, and not on those who attacks his campaigned!)
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To: Reaganesque

That is my favorite picture. That little baby does not look happy. :)


64 posted on 06/20/2007 10:33:07 AM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: big'ol_freeper

No, I think you are jealous of his wonderful family!

I have seen other president adult children they are children of the world!


65 posted on 06/20/2007 10:35:03 AM PDT by restornu (Romney keeps his eyes on the mission, and not on those who attacks his campaigned!)
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To: restornu
sycophant: a self-seeking, servile flatterer; fawning parasite.

Interesting definition. Seems to describe the average Romney hack on FR.

66 posted on 06/20/2007 10:35:15 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper (It looks like one of those days when one nuke is just not enough-- Lt. Col. Mitchell, SG-1)
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To: big'ol_freeper
We certainly wouldn’t want a leader who acted on firm moral conviction. We want someone who will govern by polls and public opinion. Someone who will say anything to get elected and then maintain the status quo even if he knows its wrong!! Guess that means Mitt’s our guy... or Bill Clinton. He perfected that approach after all.
Boy, that's chock full of contradictions! :) You criticize Mitt for keeping his promises and then you say that he won't keep them! LOL!
67 posted on 06/20/2007 10:35:56 AM PDT by Quicksilver (Mitt Romney 2008)
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To: napscoordinator
Romney family has NO PROBLEMS! Quite refreshing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

That we know about. I'm sure Hillary!'s team and Obama's team are out there frantically trying to dig up dirt on Mitt and his family. So far though, the main opposition seems to be to his religion.

68 posted on 06/20/2007 10:36:58 AM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Reaganesque
Yawn. I'm tired of voting for RINOs and hoping they'll act like a conservative. Flip governed MA as a liberal. I expect him to continue that if he is somehow (God forbid!) elected president.

He is the very essence of a pretend-conservative. I won't send him a dime. I won't support him. And I won't vote for him. Enough is enough.
69 posted on 06/20/2007 10:37:56 AM PDT by Antoninus (P!ss off an environmentalist wacko . . . have more kids.)
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To: Quicksilver

I never criticized him for keeping promises. I criticized him for for making morally bankrupt promises based on polls and public opinion instead of taking positions based on firm moral conviction. That is exactly what Clinton did. And that is exactly what Mitt did and exactly what he is doing now by having his “conservative conversion”. He’ll take any position convenient for the next election. He’s a weasel of the worst kind.


70 posted on 06/20/2007 10:41:18 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper (It looks like one of those days when one nuke is just not enough-- Lt. Col. Mitchell, SG-1)
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To: Reaganesque
Well, as someone who has known Mitt Romney for most of my life, he is not a phony. He is that good. Talk to those who have met him. Meet him yourself. He is different in a very good way.

Most of us will never have the chance to meet Flip or get to know him personally. So we'll just have to go on his record. And his record tells me that either 1.) He was a phony since 1994 when he tried to out-liberal Ted Kennedy to get elected in Masssachusetts or 2.) He's a phony now that he's suddenly discovered that he's a conservative just in time to run for president.

The man is slippery as wax on a banana peel and the epitome of a political opportunist. I don't trust him even for a second.
71 posted on 06/20/2007 10:42:06 AM PDT by Antoninus (P!ss off an environmentalist wacko . . . have more kids.)
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To: Utah Girl

That we know about. I’m sure Hillary!’s team and Obama’s team are out there frantically trying to dig up dirt on Mitt and his family. So far though, the main opposition seems to be to his religion.

Let them dig and dig and dig. I don’t believe they will find a thing. Now I will be very disappointed if they do, but I am so confident that they won’t. Now for the religion, as a Catholic, I am not concerned about that. They believe in God and are a great family!


72 posted on 06/20/2007 10:42:09 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: big'ol_freeper
I never criticized him for keeping promises. I criticized him for for making morally bankrupt promises based on polls and public opinion instead of taking positions based on firm moral conviction. That is exactly what Clinton did. And that is exactly what Mitt did and exactly what he is doing now by having his “conservative conversion”. He’ll take any position convenient for the next election. He’s a weasel of the worst kind.
You and I obviously evaluate facts differently. :)
73 posted on 06/20/2007 10:48:13 AM PDT by Quicksilver (Mitt Romney 2008)
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To: napscoordinator

Exactly. I often think of the scripture from the New Testament “By their fruits shall ye know them.”


74 posted on 06/20/2007 10:48:23 AM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: big'ol_freeper

I touch a nerve LOL


75 posted on 06/20/2007 10:48:54 AM PDT by restornu (Romney keeps his eyes on the mission, and not on those who attacks his campaigned!)
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To: Quicksilver

You might evaluate them differently, but at least you admit what the facts are. He changes positions. And that’s a fact.


76 posted on 06/20/2007 10:49:47 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper (It looks like one of those days when one nuke is just not enough-- Lt. Col. Mitchell, SG-1)
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To: restornu
I touch a nerve LOL

Nope. I'm just following the rules and not going to post what I really think about your level of intelligence. But you do a great job of demonstrating that with your own posts so I just smile and shake my head.

77 posted on 06/20/2007 10:53:30 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper (It looks like one of those days when one nuke is just not enough-- Lt. Col. Mitchell, SG-1)
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To: ridge
The newest one thinks that government spending equivalent to 20% of GDP spent on inconsequential projects for a decade makes them Reagan.

And which one is that?

78 posted on 06/20/2007 10:58:16 AM PDT by RockinRight (Our 44th President will be Fred Dalton Thompson!)
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To: big'ol_freeper

He changes positions. And that’s a fact.

In area's Romney had control over the situations!

Governor Romney was presented with legislation concerning life issues on several occasions from the 85% majority Democrat Legislature in Massachusetts. In every instance he took the pro-life position by vetoing bills or lobbying for the pro-life approach, including the following actions:

He vetoed the bill providing state funding for human embryonic stem cell research (Theo Emery, "Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney Vetoes Stem Cell Bill," The Associated Press, 5/27/05)

He vetoed a bill that provided for the "morning after pill" without a prescription because it is an abortifacient and would have been available to minors without parental notification and consent (Governor Mitt Romney, Op-Ed, "Why I Vetoed The Contraception Bill," The Boston Globe, 7/26/05)

He vetoed legislation which would have redefined Massachusetts longstanding definition of the beginning of human life from fertilization to implantation (Governor Mitt Romney, Letter To The Massachusetts State Senate And House Of Representatives, 5/12/05)

He supported parental notification laws and opposed efforts to weaken parental involvement (John McElhenny, "O'Brien And Romney Spar In Last Debate Before Election," The Associated Press, 10/29/02)

He fought to promote abstinence education in public school classrooms with a program offered by faith-based Boston group Healthy Futures to middle school students

And these are FACTS big'ol_freeper

79 posted on 06/20/2007 11:00:10 AM PDT by restornu (Romney keeps his eyes on the mission, and not on those who attacks his campaigned!)
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To: restornu
Despite recent statements across the country by Governor Mitt Romney claiming he's pro-life, pro-family and a committed conservative, a broad investigation of his actual statements, actions, and public positions over the years indicates that he has spent his entire career speaking and governing as a liberal -- and that his new found conversion to conservatism very likely coincides with his candidacy for the presidency.

The information in this report is gleaned from public records, press accounts, internet web sites and research (as well as personal observation) by my organization, MassResistance, a grass-roots pro-family group that has observed Governor Romney for over a decade. We have analyzed his legislation, met with his staff, lobbied for and against his agenda (depending what it is) and otherwise compiled considerable research on his administration.

We believe this report is necessary due to a calculated effort by the Romney campaign to revise his history and portray the Governor as far more conservative than the record indicates. Already, the Governor's staff is making appointments with the nation's leading conservative leaders to convince them that he should be the standard bearer for the conservative movement in the upcoming presidential elections.

We have also been alarmed by misleading and glowing accounts about Romney which have appeared in the conservative media over the past year. The fact that these articles were based upon sloppy research and material supplied by the Romney camp gave us great incentive to set the record straight. Few national political writers have bothered to speak with any MassResistance member, or for that matter anyone critical of Romney's record.

One of the few conservative publications to expose Romney's liberalism is the conservative weekly Human Events which (in a 2005 article) listed Romney at number eight on its list of "Top Ten Republicans in Name Only (RINOs)." Indeed, this report will demonstrate that Romney was probably the most pro-abortion and pro-gay rights Republican official in the nation for the last decade. The idea that he has suddenly become a conservative after a decade of liberal actions and statements would be merely amusing were it not for the fact that he's running for the presidency and that many conservatives are falling for this act.

On the other hand, it's particularly interesting to note that Bay Windows, Boston's major homosexual newspaper, has reviewed Romney favorably. That same newspaper regularly prints extremely vicious and even obscene attacks on all conservative politicians, the "Christian Right" and even parents who challenge the liberal political agenda.

The November elections were clearly a turning point for the conservative movement. While President Bush has done some good things for the conservative movement, in many areas his administration has been a great disappointment. Movement activists across the country have become disillusioned with the Republican Party as a result of Bush's massive spending spree, his failure to veto wasteful programs, his inattention toward illegal immigration, and his token attention to social issues. As a result, we paid a price at the polls.

In two years, the presidential elections will be upon us and the GOP will have an opportunity to redeem itself. However, if we elect another President who demoralizes our base even further, it could spell the end of the conservative movement as we know it. Many conservative organizations are already reporting that segments or our base are dropping out of politics altogether or joining the Libertarian and other small parties. Another four or eight years of "big tent" Republicanism or "compassionate conservatism" will kill our base and CPAC meetings will be held in a phone booth.

Thus, it is imperative that the movement carefully scrutinize the record of all candidates seeking the presidency and if none of the existing candidates meet our standards, then it would be prudent for the conservative movement to draft someone we can all be supportive of. Let's review Governor Romney's positions on the hot-button issues and his actions as Governor of Massachusetts.

(Note: News source web links are listed at the end of this document by date. All words in boldface are by the author of this report.)

Abortion Issues

Romney supports abortion in general, and believes in sustaining Roe v. Wade.

Romney campaigned for Governor of Massachusetts as a pro-choice candidate, and was endorsed by a pro-abortion political group

Romney signs "Right to Privacy" Proclamation celebrating birth control availability

Homosexual "Rights"

Gov. Romney has a long history of promoting and furthering the homosexual agenda, and working closely with leading gay activists

Romney twice sought and received the endorsement of the homosexual Log Cabin Republican Club

But what struck the gay GOP during that campaign, according to Massachusetts Log Cabin Republicans (LCR), was Romney's accessibility to and comfort within the local gay community. Romney and his Republican primary opponent, John Lakian, attended an LCR-sponsored candidate's forum during the campaign, where they both competitively vied for the organization's endorsement -- which Romney eventually won. During the course of his campaign, LCR member and former president Mark Goshko told Bay Windows, Romney held several meetings with group members and at least two LCR members joined his staff. Though gay Republicans were by no means running Romney's campaign, "it was really a multi-level involvement," Goshko stated. "Our people were very involved officially and outside of [the campaign]."

"It's 9:15 a.m. and Republican gubernatorial nominee Mitt Romney is in good spirits. He's just wrapped up a meeting with the Massachusetts Log Cabin Republicans at Mario's restaurant in Boston, where he won his first endorsement from a gay organization . . . According to Mark Goshko, a former LCR president, the group's 15-member board of governors, the body that votes to endorse candidates, made the unanimous decision after meeting with the Romney campaign and holding extensive discussions." - Bay Windows, 10/24/2002

Romney's campaign distributed pro-gay rights campaign literature during Boston's "Gay Pride" events

The annual "Gay Pride" events in Boston, as in other cities across the country, regularly feature obscene and degrading floats, handouts, and activities:

Romney supports homosexual "anti-discrimination" laws

Such laws are usually carried out at the expense of freedom of religion and speech. For example, they would allow lawsuits against a Christian book store owner for refusing to hire a homosexual activist applicant.

Romney advocates homosexual couples' adoption rights be recognized by the government

Romney supports homosexual domestic partnerships

"Basically I see the provision of basic civil rights and domestic partnership benefits [as] a campaign against Tom Finneran. I see Tom Finneran and the Democratic leadership as having opposed the application of domestic partnership benefits to gay and lesbian couples and I will support and endorse efforts to provide those domestic partnership benefits to gay and lesbian couples," says Romney.

"If this [proposed constitutional marriage] amendment were to pass, at that stage I would support legislation which would provide certain domestic partnership benefits, like hospital visitation rights, and rights of survivorship, and so forth.

Romney supported and promoted legalizing homosexual civil unions

Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney said yesterday he was ready to work with lawmakers to craft a "civil union"-style law to give some marriage rights to homosexual couples, even though he also supports a constitutional amendment to preserve traditional marriage . . . Mr. Romney yesterday told TV news stations that he would support a Vermont-style civil union law in Massachusetts, but reiterated his support for a constitutional amendment that would clarify that "marriage is an institution between a man and a woman."

Massachusetts Governor Romney is coming under fire for comments he made about gay marriage to Republican activists in South Carolina. Romney told Monday night's gathering in Spartanburg County that he's always been opposed to same-sex marriage as well as what he called "it's equivalent, civil unions." Romney, however, has for months backed a proposed amendment to the Massachusetts constitution that would ban gay marriage but provide for civil unions with the same rights and responsibilities as marriage. Massachusetts State Representative Phil Travis says Romney can't be for civil unions when he's in Massachusetts and against them when he's out-of-state. Travis has been a leading opponent of same-sex unions.

Through all the twists and shifts during the gay-marriage debate this year, there was one constant: 22 Republicans in the House of Representatives opposed every measure that would grant gay couples civil unions in the constitution. That all changed yesterday, however, when 15 of that 22-member bloc broke away at the urging of Governor Mitt Romney and voted in favor of a proposed amendment that would ban gay marriage but create Vermont-style civil unions. Those 15 members provided the margin of victory, observers from both camps said yesterday after the measure passed by just five votes. In the end, the 15 agreed that approving a measure that they viewed as highly undesirable was preferable to the possibility that nothing would be sent to the state ballot for voters to weigh in on.

Romney Opposes the Boy Scouts' Ban on Homosexual Scoutmasters

Romney barred Boy Scouts from public participation in 2002 Olympics

The largest Boy Scout council in the country responded to the call for volunteers issued by the Salt Lake Olympic Organizing Committee, but the welcome mat was rolled up and the door slammed in its face. Olympic spokesmen for the 2002 winter games say the exclusion has nothing to do with recent protests by gay activists. While the organizing committee for the Olympic event is prominently displaying a call for local volunteers, they have explicitly let it be known that the Boy Scouts need not apply. "For us not to be involved is discouraging, considering the Atlanta games. The Scouting council there was extremely involved," said Kay Godfrey, professional Scout executive for the Great Salt Lake Council of Boy Scouts.

Homosexual activism in government

Romney appointed prominent homosexuals to key positions in his administration

(Note: These appointees aren't just "gay" people, they're committed homosexual activists. Grabauskas, for example, had previously served as head of the Registrar of Motor Vehicles where he instituted a policy of placing a sex-change check-off box on drivers license renewal forms.) Drivers license renewal form: http://massresistance.org/docs/govt/license_renewal/

Romney appointed prominent homosexual activists and Democrats as judges

Romney Rewards one of the State's Leading Anti-Marriage Attorneys by Making him a Judge

Romney announces he won't fill judicial vacancies before term ends

Governor Mitt Romney pledged yesterday not to make a flurry of lame-duck judicial appointments in the final days of his administration . . . David Yas, editor of Lawyers Weekly, said Romney is "bucking tradition" by resisting the urge to fill all remaining judgeships. "It is a tradition for governors to use that power to appoint judges aggressively in the waning moments of their administration," Yas said. He added that Romney has been criticized for failing to make judicial appointments. "The legal community has consistently criticized him for not filling open seats quickly enough and being a little too painstaking in the process and being dismissive of the input of the Judicial Nominating Commission," Yas said.

Romney's Commission on Gay and Lesbian Youth used huge taxpayer funding to promote homosexuality in the public schools

(Note: See entire section below -- "Romney's Commission organized public gay 'Youth Pride Day' parades and 'transgender proms' which promote unhealthy and risky behavior.")

Kathleen Henry, chairwoman of the Governor's Commission on Gay and Lesbian Youth, defended Romney. Henry said the governor's fiscal 2006 budget plan included $250,000 for the commission, twice as much as he proposed spending in 2005. "The fact that he doubled last year's [proposed budget allocation] this year is huge to us. It's really huge. It says to us clearly that he gets the service for what it really is," said Henry.

Romney said his vetoes were motivated by fiscal prudence, not opposition to the programs or presidential politics. Even with his vetoes, the state would spend more than $1 million on teen pregnancy prevention and $250,000 on the programs for gay and lesbian youth. . . [Romney said,] "The work that they're doing to prevent suicide and prevent violence is important work, and we support the work which they're doing . . . [but] we didn't see a need to raise their budget by 40 percent."

Romney's Commission organized public gay "Youth Pride Day" parades and "transgender proms" which promote unhealthy and risky behavior

For photos of the prom and a flyer handed out by pedophiles seeking boys at that event

For info on the BAGLY, pedophilia and its connection to the Commission: here and here

Romney issues a proclamation celebrating gay "Youth Pride Day"

Romney's Department of Education promotes the homosexual agenda

The Safe Schools Program for Gay & Lesbian Students

"Outright" pamphlet distributed to kids

How to start a Gay/Straight Alliance at school

Gay/Straight Alliance Student Guide

Gay/Straight Alliance resources page

Romney's Department of Public Health (DPH) cooperates with the homosexual activist movement

Romney's Dept. of Social Services honors homosexual "married" couple as adoptive "Parents of the Year"

Homosexual "Marriage"

Romney unnecessarily (and unconstitutionally) implemented homosexual marriages in Massachusetts

Romney had marriage certificates changed to allow same-sex marriages

Romney administration ordered Justices of Peace to perform homosexual "marriages" when asked -- or be fired!

"On April 26, Gov. Mitt Romney's chief legal counsel, Daniel Winslow, told the state's 1,200 justices of the peace that they had to marry same-sex couples, or be fired... After being assured in February that the justices would be able file for conscientious-objector status, [a JP] was shocked to hear Winslow say they couldn'tÑand to hear an official from the state board of discrimination warn that trying to get out of officiating same-sex ceremonies could get them sued for $25,000 to $1 million." David Fried of the Mass. Commission Against Discrimination [a Romney appointed agency] said "that justices could be personally liable under the state's antidiscrimination law if they turned away same-sex couples who requested their services."

Romney administration's training of Town Clerks (on how to issue same-sex marriage licenses) states that marriage statutes were not changed

Romney signs bill eliminating Sexual Transmitted Disease (STD) testing requirement for marriage

Romney refused to endorse original Mass. constitutional amendment absolutely defining marriage as one man and one women

When requested of him, Romney personally issues special one-day certificates to allow otherwise unqualified people to perform homosexual "marriages"

"His harsh criticism of what he calls "judicial over-reaching" always wins applause from Republican audiences. But the governor has at times taken pains to promote tolerance of gays and lesbians. When an administration official was dismissed and asserted that the action was related to her intention to marry her lesbian partner, Romney strongly denied it and noted that several high-ranking officials in his administration were gay... The applications Romney approved from same-sex couples included at least four from state legislators, including Jarrett T. Barrios, a state senator from Cambridge, members of the clergy from out-of-state, family members, and friends ..."

Was Romney's public opposition to homosexual "marriage" based on expediency, not principle?

In summary, Romney has never said that homosexual marriage (especially the sodomy characteristic of the male unions) presents a problem for values, morality, public health, or parental rights in the schools. In almost every speech he gives on the topic, he simply focuses on "every child needing a father and a mother."

Gun Control

Romney favors "Assault" Weapons Ban

Economic Issues

Romney supports minimum wage laws

Romney Balances Budget with $500 Million in New Fees

Romney imposes "socialized" health care on Massachusetts

Republican Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney is trying to accomplish in his final year in office what Democrats can only dream of these days: boosting government spending on and regulation of health care and requiring individuals to purchase government-designed policies. Romney's plan, which is backed by such liberals as Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, Mass.), is being pitched as a compact between citizens and the state.

Party Leadership

Romney's dismal record as the Republican leader in Massachusetts

The party's slide has been so precipitous that Republicans yesterday did not contest 130 of 200 legislative seats, fielded a challenger in only three of 10 congressional districts, and put up fewer candidates for statewide office (three) than the Green-Rainbow Party (four).

"Locally, this is a rebuke to Mitt Romney and checking out within six months after being elected and having accomplished almost nothing," said [Jim] Rappaport [former chairman of the state Republican Party].

Conclusion

For over ten years MassResistance has observed Mitt Romney and his actions. On issue after issue, Romney would search for a way to look like he was governing as a conservative, but in every case, the liberals would ultimately be the victors. He would double the money for programs that promoted homosexuality in the schools but then turn around and veto what he himself had allocated, knowing full well his veto would be overturned.

On the marriage issue, he made it look like he was "forced" into recognizing homosexual marriages, but he refused to pursue other options that would have rallied anti-gay marriage forces and perhaps turned this issue around.

He would issue statements critical of obscene pro-homosexual books and about the treatment of David Parker, yet it was the actions of his own agencies that created these controversies to begin with. Nor would he lift a finger to make internal changes to prevent his agencies from promoting the liberal agenda or reprimand any employees possibly engaged, for example, in illegal activities.

To any observer, his seemingly contradictory tactics and strategies looked as though he was preparing a "conservative track record" for his run for higher office. He has issued enough conservative sounding statements and engaged in enough "battles" with liberals (as fake as many of them were), that to an uninformed observer, it may look like he was an embattled conservative triumphing over the forces in liberalism in one of the most liberal states in America.

Both that's the myth his campaign staff wants to perpetrate. Any close observer will tell you that the pro-abortion and pro-homosexual forces never lost any battles under his tenure and that in fact, they grew in power and influence. Romney did nothing to restrain the groups who have launched a jihad on America's Judeo-Christian culture.

On so many occasions, the liberal agenda could have been slowed down or even defeated with the smallest internal regulatory decision or executive order and yet he never used the power he had to do that. He gave up the battlefield to our enemies over and over again.

This is why every conservative in America needs to question his overly hyped conversion to conservatism. How can we trust a man who has done so much damage to causes dear to our hearts who has suddenly become a conservative only after deciding to run for President?

Fourteen years ago the country was duped by a charming, smooth talking "moderate" Democrat named Bill Clinton who used the power of the Presidency to inflict great damage to America's military, to our intelligence agencies, and to our culture. The gap between how Clinton appeared to most Americans and how he really governed was huge. We cannot afford another President like that.

80 posted on 06/20/2007 11:07:42 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper (It looks like one of those days when one nuke is just not enough-- Lt. Col. Mitchell, SG-1)
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