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To: tpaine

tpaine—You feel that I ‘feel’? How silly

Irish...No ‘silly,’ that’s not what I said. I’m simply an observer of the consequences of the effects that your ‘self-centered’ feelings are having upon you, your ability to reason rationally, etc.

tpaine—I don’t. Our inalienable [not infringable] rights are self-evident and do not require a creator to be valid.

Irish...This claim is inconsistent with the tenets of evolutionary humanism. There can be no such thing as “self-evident’ when ‘matter is in motion.” All you have is continuous ‘change.” For this reason, EO Wilson frankly admits that there is no source for self (personhood).

Furthermore, your talk of ‘rights’ is likewise inconsistent with the tenets of evolutionary humanism for the same reason as above. All you have is whatever ‘privileges’ the higher evolved deign to allow you as per their ‘impulses’ of the moment.


533 posted on 06/27/2007 5:45:22 AM PDT by spirited irish
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To: spirited irish
Furthermore, your talk of ‘rights’ is likewise inconsistent with the tenets of evolutionary humanism for the same reason as above. All you have is whatever ‘privileges’ the higher evolved deign to allow you as per their ‘impulses’ of the moment.

Where can we find a standard reference on theology or philosophy that lists these "tenets of evolutinary humanism" you keep talking about? Are you just making all of this up as you go?

535 posted on 06/27/2007 6:36:33 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: spirited irish
Our inalienable [not infringable] rights are self-evident and do not require a creator to be valid.

This claim is inconsistent with the tenets of evolutionary humanism.

It's a constitutional truth, not a claim based on some tenets you've defined.

There can be no such thing as 'self-evident when 'matter is in motion.' All you have is continuous 'change.' For this reason, EO Wilson frankly admits that there is no source for self (personhood).

You've lost me. - I simply can't respond to "matter in motion", and "no source for personhood" comments. Get real.

536 posted on 06/27/2007 6:51:42 AM PDT by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia)
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