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To: betty boop
My friend, it is you who does not understand it. From what I wrote earlier, you should have noticed that I said that knowledge acquisition was always a perfectly subjective enterprise. "Objectivity" can only enter into the game at the level of the descriptions we make of subjective experiences. If the descriptions are borne out by "facts on the ground," then the objectivity of the statements is validated.

Without any agreement to the terms being used in that description, determining whether those "facts" are born out or not is an entirely subjective proposition.

196 posted on 06/23/2007 11:44:18 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic; Alamo-Girl; spirited irish; Stultis; js1138; hosepipe; MHGinTN
Without any agreement to the terms being used in that description, determining whether those "facts" are born out or not is an entirely subjective proposition.

"Without any agreement," the human race is lost. For we no longer have any way of making ourselves intelligible to one another, if we begin by saying that there is no standard by which our statements can be judged, in principle.

Are you sure you want to go there? It seems you are advocating in favor of an infinite causal regression that leads to exactly nothing and nowhere.

As against that proposition, may I advance a notion of Eric Voegelin's, that the human psyche -- assuming it has not been tampered with -- has an innate, "indefeasible integrity" in its contacts with/descriptions of nature.

Meaning: We humans seemingly tend to get things right in our descriptions of the universe. Otherwise, the causes that led to our advanced societies would be utterly unintelligible.

Just ask yourself: Why is that???

198 posted on 06/23/2007 1:24:52 PM PDT by betty boop ("Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." -- A. Einstein)
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