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To: littlehouse36
I'm not Catholic, but I disagree somewhat. The Bishop is correct to deny communion, but you are correct that it must be dealt out non-selectivly. It should also be denied to those that support gay marriage, and if B. Clinton was Catholic, he should have been made to repent of his adultery and lying. I'm a Baptist, and I couldn't believe his church said nothing during the Monica affair. My church doesn't hesitate to call someone on adultery and fornication. There can be no argument for such things.

I have trouble with the church calling Iraq an unjust war because that certainly is OPINION, not Biblical. Murder of your child cannot be explained away as opinion, it is in fact Biblical.

I do think if the Bishop enforces this rule, there will be a backlash of people that want to pick and choose what they believe God says. I believe the reason abortion and homosexuality are such hot buttons is there can be no room for argument what God requires. Adultery and lying are more things pretty much etched in stone. The stuff about contraception, for me anyway, is mans interpretation. We can agree to disagree, but I don't think people should be denied communion over such things that could be interpreted in other ways. That is Catholic doctrine and they should teach what they want, but murdering your child is not up for discussion. The sanctity of life is a cornerstone of any Christian denomination. One of the reasons many won't accept Mormons as Christian, but as a cult is multiple wives and Jesus is equal to Joseph Smith. The Bible is pretty plain on these subjects and I think they teach error. There are some denominations that teach you can lose your salvation. That is also just a scare tactic, easily refutable in Scripture.

If this Bishop wants to follow through with such a plan, he better be ready for all the other stuff that comes with it. Most denominations are having the same problems the Catholics are about sitting at a buffet table and choosing this and rejecting that. What does it mean do be Catholic and reject Gods Word? Separating Biblical teaching from mans interpretation is the problem.

I still support the Bishop anyway.

16 posted on 06/19/2007 11:45:53 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles
It should also be denied to those that support gay marriage

Of course. Public advocacy of any sinful behavior is grounds for excommunication.

19 posted on 06/20/2007 12:21:36 AM PDT by annalex
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To: chuckles
There are some denominations that teach you can lose your salvation.

You can.

That is also just a scare tactic,

It's wise counsel that should be heeded.

easily refutable in Scripture.

You might want to take that up with St. Paul since he explicitly contradicts your assertion.

24 posted on 06/20/2007 3:56:05 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: chuckles

The problem with denying Communion across the Board to anyone who supports abortion, gay marriage, etc., is that the Communion ministers do not know that. A politician’s views are known and are a scandal to the church so it is easier to select them.

That does notmean that the ordinary communicant is not excommunicated — they are in fact if they are living outside the teachings of the church. But only they and God know it in their hearts. It is the public position of the politician that makes it different.


39 posted on 06/20/2007 10:12:45 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: chuckles
Adultery and lying are more things pretty much etched in stone.

Actually, they were etched in stone, the 10 Commandments :)

50 posted on 06/20/2007 2:49:23 PM PDT by reaganaut ( ex-mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: chuckles
I have trouble with the church calling Iraq an unjust war...
 
It is no secret that JPII opposed the invasion of Iraq.  What many don't realize is that the Vatican supports the current effort:
 
9/10/2004
Vatican buries the hatchet with Blair and Bush over Iraq

Now, in light of the post-war chaos, Cardinal Sodano has announced a newly hawkish line on Iraq from Rome. "The child has been born," he declared recently on behalf of the Vatican. "It may be illegitimate, but it's here, and it must be reared and educated."

Despite the Vatican's vociferous opposition to the war, the bloody terrorist attacks and the continuing insurgency have convinced the Pope that only an increased military presence, including Nato troops, can secure peace. 


52 posted on 06/20/2007 4:21:22 PM PDT by littlehouse36 (Good fences make good neighbors)
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