Posted on 06/19/2007 9:51:33 PM PDT by Coleus
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got give props to this Bishop
I’m sorry, I’m a pro-life Catholic but I disagree with this selective meddling into politics. Why don’t they go ahead deny communion to those who support gay marriage, unjust wars, Griswold v. Connecticut (contraception) and so on.
Largely because of the effrontery of the 18 House Democrats on this issue. Aren’t they trying to tell the pope how to do his business?
Probably because he would get a challenger in the primary if he did.
BTTT
because nothing is worse than abortion. The direct killing of innocent human beings at any stage of development, including the embryonic and fetal, is homicidal, gravely sinful and always profoundly wrong. You can’t deny legal protection to the most vulnerable. This Bishop, as well as the others, is making the right choice by following Canon Law 915.
Grave manifest sin, obstinately maintained, which could be the case of the estimated 500 Catholic pro abortion politicians in the U.S.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1072345/posts
I don’t know, Bob Roe was a democrat congressman in the same district who voted pro life and, after the influx of so many new Hispanic immigrants, the district is more catholic than it has been in the past. Also, Paterson has a very-large Muslim population that is pro-life and anti-homosexual. Pascrell votes the opposite of his many constituents.
If so, then God has spoken, if not then it should be.
I do not see how a person can separate the Catholic faith, which includes all of its teachings, and politics. If you are Catholic, then you MUST agree with the Church, otherwise, why be Catholic?
Also, the whole point of being "in Communion" is being in agreement.
Then Pascrell is a liberal like Pelosi. He has offer stuff to the Mexicans and to the Muslims that will make them look past his occasional pro-choice vote.
Just wars can be at least a bit ambiguous, but abortion is not. As JPII wrote, the politicians who enable the abortionists are just as guilty of murder as the abortionists themselves.
I’d be surprised if somewhere in Rome there isn’t a blanket edict to that effect.
>>>I’m sorry, I’m a pro-life Catholic but I disagree with this selective meddling into politics. Why don’t they go ahead deny communion to those who support gay marriage, unjust wars, Griswold v. Connecticut (contraception) and so on.<<<
I tend to agree with you. I don’t like the church subjecting itself to the influence of the state any more than need be. In the Church’s favor and in favor of the Church speaking out on the abortion issue, “Thou Shalt not Murder” is the 5th Commandment... Perhaps a bit more Biblical sway than the others you mentioned.
I have trouble with the church calling Iraq an unjust war because that certainly is OPINION, not Biblical. Murder of your child cannot be explained away as opinion, it is in fact Biblical.
I do think if the Bishop enforces this rule, there will be a backlash of people that want to pick and choose what they believe God says. I believe the reason abortion and homosexuality are such hot buttons is there can be no room for argument what God requires. Adultery and lying are more things pretty much etched in stone. The stuff about contraception, for me anyway, is mans interpretation. We can agree to disagree, but I don't think people should be denied communion over such things that could be interpreted in other ways. That is Catholic doctrine and they should teach what they want, but murdering your child is not up for discussion. The sanctity of life is a cornerstone of any Christian denomination. One of the reasons many won't accept Mormons as Christian, but as a cult is multiple wives and Jesus is equal to Joseph Smith. The Bible is pretty plain on these subjects and I think they teach error. There are some denominations that teach you can lose your salvation. That is also just a scare tactic, easily refutable in Scripture.
If this Bishop wants to follow through with such a plan, he better be ready for all the other stuff that comes with it. Most denominations are having the same problems the Catholics are about sitting at a buffet table and choosing this and rejecting that. What does it mean do be Catholic and reject Gods Word? Separating Biblical teaching from mans interpretation is the problem.
I still support the Bishop anyway.
I am all about this, but what about the general public Catholics? If we do this for one we must do it for all.
It is only a matter of time when the freedom of religion clause in the American Constitution be de-facto overturned under some such pretext.
Of course. Public advocacy of any sinful behavior is grounds for excommunication.
“I’m sorry, I’m a pro-life Catholic but I disagree with this selective meddling into politics.”
As a fellow Catholic, I wholeheartedly agree.
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