Helping along global warming (fraudulent temp records)

Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | Sunday, June 17, 2007 | Bill Steigerwald

[BillCompton]

Remember in January when the National Oceanic & Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) and its good friends in media trumpeted that 2006 was the warmest year on record for the contiguous United States?

NOAA based that finding - which allegedly capped a nine-year warming streak "unprecedented in the historical record" - on the daily temperature data that its National Climatic Data Center gathers from about 1,221 mostly rural weather observation stations around the country.

[BillCompton]

This is a former tv weather man who is going out and taking pictures of the devices that NOAA uses to take official temperature records used in the Climate models to predict global warming. Some of the sites are clearly designed to inflate temperatures. Check out the amazing photos and descriptions at: http://www.surfacestations.org/

Also, he has a package put together where you can go out and document the sites that are near to you.

[Always Right]

To assure accuracy, stations (essentially older thermometers in little four-legged wooden sheds or digital thermometers mounted on poles) should be 100 feet from buildings, not placed on hot concrete, etc. But as photos on Watts' site show, the station in Forest Grove, Ore., stands 10 feet from an air-conditioning exhaust vent. In Roseburg, Ore., it's on a rooftop near an AC unit. In Tahoe, Calif., it's next to a drum where trash is burned.

Not surprising. I am sure there are even some intentional pumping of the data by individual volunteers with an agenda. Other countries are even worse than the US. satellite data is the best source of information on global temps.

[edcoil]

100 years ago, California only had one indoor toilet. It was in the Governors Mansion in Sacramento.

So while we could not invent flushing toilets until then, we were previously able to develop highly technical weather monitoring equipment.

Yea, right.

[keepitreal]

Follow the money. Who has a vested interest in global warming? Who’s grants from the feds depend on a new crisis to study and perpetuate?

[jsh3180]

There’s been much discussion here:

http://www.climateaudit.org/

about this new website and topic.

[keepitreal]

Follow the money. Who has a vested interest in global warming? Whose grants from the feds depend on a new crisis to study and perpetuate? Who makes money on documentaries and carbon credits? Who gets political donations from environmental advocacy groups who make money scaring do- gooders into contributing?

[BillCompton]

Hey, thanks for the link.

[Old Professer]

What kills me is when they report on the Web and on T.V. a relative humidity reading of 69% in the middle of a thunderstorm with near-zero visibity due to rain; these machines are also not very smart.

[Old Professer]

Between the ranges of 41F and 120+F, the traditional mercury bulb thermometer remains extremely accurate when read by a competent observer; the modern machines are designed to be self-calibrating and there word is gospel.

The WBAN manual lists the requirements for the location, design and construction of a classic instrument shelter in the (then) interests of uniform measuring procedures; since the advent and adoption of the automated units all that is largely ignored.

[Old Professer]

there-their, sorry.

[edcoil]

“when read by a competent observer;”

I don’t doubt this to be true, was the training done after a full day of riding horses and trying to find food and water to eat?

[lepton]

Between the ranges of 41F and 120+F, the traditional mercury bulb thermometer remains extremely accurate when read by a competent observer;

It is interesting to note that "Average temperature" will change consideraby based upon whether the daily low and daily high are averaged together, hourly readings are taken, and what time of day the readings are taken. These have all changed considerably over the last few years.

I've seen some initial tests suggesting a large difference in temperature readings between the testing stations painted with whitewash, and painted with white latex paint. This in addition to the stations that sit adjacent to parking lots that weren't there a decade before.

[lepton]

National Climatic Data Center gathers from about 1,221 mostly rural weather observation stations around the country.

at least in a few cases, "rural" has changed from a field in the middle of nowhere, to within a foot of a parking space along a large parking lot with sidewalks and buildings.

[edcoil]

You might recall here in CA where our “official” rain fall meter was used. After weeks of rain it still measured minimal increase in annual rain measurement. After weeks of searching, it was determined that the unit was leaking.

OK. What does that do to statistics.

[carolinablonde]

When you go to http://www.surfacestations.org/ now, you get:

surfacestations.org is currently offline due to excessive traffic, it will return once server is relocated

please bookmark and try again in 24-48 hours

Coincidence? I don't think so.

[BillCompton]

Coincidence? I don't think so.

No, this is nothing sinister. Matt Drudge put it on his site and there are a lot of high res images. It was pretty slow when I got the info. But I did check out the recording sites around where I live, but the readings looked right (if no warming trend is "right").

[Calvin Locke]

I caught part of the "Dirty Jobs" show over the weekend. Mike Rowe was given a temp probe to stick in fresh, oozing lava.

He only got it up to 1000 degrees, half of what was expected.

Of course, I'm giving the benefit of the doubt to the volcanologist reading the pyrometer a few feet away.

Granted, Rowe was told not to hold it in one spot so it wouldn't pull an excalibur, but he was pretty wimpily incompetent about trying to get a good reading.

Hey, the lava's only 2000 degrees, only a tad more compared to the thermometers next to heat exhausts, burn barrels, jet wash, etc.