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To: PatGoltz
"Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity" The unborn are our posterity.

But where does it say that posterity trumps the liberty of the pregnant woman? That's the trouble with trying to create law from the preamble, you can justify the federal government doing anything. The preamble mentions welfare. That's how the liberals justified cradle to grave welfare.

No state has a right to ALLOW abortion.

Do states have the right to allow birth control? That threatens our posterity too. The notion that it is unconstitutional for a state to NOT pass a law is ludicrous.

211 posted on 06/19/2007 10:07:07 PM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: Dan Evans

“But where does it say that posterity trumps the liberty of the pregnant woman?”

Again, you are forgetting that the mother and her child are a dyad. If you want to harm her child, you must first harm her. The “liberty” you are speaking of is the “liberty” to consent to medical rape, because that’s what it is. It is the deep invasion of a mother’s body for the purpose of harming both her and her child. If you truly understand what abortion is, you will understand why your argument here makes no sense. The mere fact a lot of people use this argument doesn’t make it any less nonsensical.

“That’s the trouble with trying to create law from the preamble, you can justify the federal government doing anything. The preamble mentions welfare. That’s how the liberals justified cradle to grave welfare.”

This is a bad argument because the Preamble speaks of the GENERAL welfare, and you cannot single out some people to be plundered to help the welfare of other people. You have to protect the general welfare of everyone, and plundering is not in furtherance of that goal. The people who use the word “welfare” to justify plundering schemes are misinterpreting the Preamble. We shouldn’t let them get away with that.

“Do states have the right to allow birth control? That threatens our posterity too. The notion that it is unconstitutional for a state to NOT pass a law is ludicrous.”

Yes, they do, provided it’s contraception. Why” Because contraception doesn’t kill anybody. We already HAVE laws against taking life. They’re called “homicide statutes”. If the states suddenly started repealing their homicide statutes, what would you do? I would think that you have a perfect right to argue that the state doesn’t have the right to repeal those statutes. Abortion really SHOULD be prosecuted under the homicide statutes instead of having a separate law of its own.


220 posted on 06/20/2007 1:46:30 AM PDT by PatGoltz (http://www.seghea.com/emails/terrorism.html http://www.seghea.com/emails/iraq.html)
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