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To: Alter Kaker
...dishonest appearance...???

Are you aware that you are making an assumption or series of assumptions yourself and this is the foundation upon which you are basing your accusation of dishonesty toward God?

Have you thought your assumption through enough to justify your brash charge of dishonesty?

Some things are impossible to know using the finite tools of science. For many things science works wonderfully and has made our lives better and more comfortable, but, like it or not, it does have definite limitations when it comes to certain areas of reality.

Areas such as one time historical events that cannot be directly tested.

Areas like the Virgin Birth of Christ, that is areas where God intervenes in any manner.

If you are denying the Virgin Birth or the supernatural then that is your choice, but I doubt you would go so far as to claim the Bible does not teach these things as fact.

238 posted on 06/18/2007 12:13:06 PM PDT by Old Landmarks (No fear of man, none!)
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To: Old Landmarks
Are you aware that you are making an assumption or series of assumptions yourself and this is the foundation upon which you are basing your accusation of dishonesty toward God?

I'm not accusing God of being dishonest, I'm accusing those people who think God put up microwave background radiation in order to deceive us are the ones accusing God of being dishonest. But it's not just MBR. If the Young Earth Creationists are right, God is also deceiving us all the time. In order to make the world look old, He's fabricating fossils, playing around with ice cores, creating fake "ancient" mutations in our genetic code, making stars millions of light years away appear visible to us, He's falsified tree rings, and variously sped up and slowed down the motion of planets and stars. In other words, there are so many thousands of independent pieces of evidence pointing to an ancient universe, that falsifying all those pieces of data must be more than a full time job. Yet you think that trickster is your God.

You worship that god; I'll worship the God of Abraham.

If you are denying ... the supernatural then that is your choice,

What are you talking about? I think you're mistaking me for someone else.

260 posted on 06/18/2007 4:25:41 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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