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To: sentis1
Re: 108

I really hate stepping into these endless Crevo/Evo threads because everyone restates their same positions, and it all ends up feeling like running on a hamster wheel.
But some of your comments remind me of where I was ten years ago, so I'll dive in for a moment:

I don’t see where I said God’s law is obsolete. I have merely said that a literal interpretation of the Bible is incorrect and any rational person will concede that the Bible (especially the old testament) is not literal truth.

Genesis was written as a factual historical account. Moses, Jesus, Job, Peter, the Psalmists, etc., treated it in this manner. So should we.

I won’t even go into the development of the Bible by the Catholic Church in the middle ages or the earlier decisions by scholars of the Torah who decided which works should or should not be included.

ok ... I won't go into it either

What is important is that Jesus existed and what he taught. That’s it that is all that is important. The Fact of Jesus does not even need the Torah, the old testament, or even the Jewish faith at all. it is sufficient that Christ existed.

But how do you know what Jesus taught?
How do you know who Jesus was?
How do you even know that Jesus existed?
Because its all there in the Bible, and we know that 'all scripture is given by inspiration of God and profitable for instruction, ...'
Sure, there were secular references, and we have 'traditions' - but we know what we know from God's Word.

The old testament is unfortunate in many ways and is like a stone tied around the neck of Christianity allowing many of it’s literal adherents to keep a large portion of Christians mired in medieval dogma better suited to an age of superstition.

The Bible is One Book.
Cut out the Old Testament, and its like you are removing half the chapters of the Book...
Why do it?
Every book (and most Chapters) in the Old Testament points at Jesus. The Gospels tell of Jesus' life, and the Epistles spells out what Jesus accomplished, the promises to believers and doctrine...
Regarding a literal belief in the Old Testament (and the Bible as an extension) as being a millstone around the necks of believers with the respect to knowledge and discovery -- this unwavering belief didn't stop men such as Isaac Newton, Johan Kepler, Louis Pasteur, JC Maxwell, etc., from engaging in real science. These men understood God was the Creator and Master of the Universe, and the purpose of Science was to learn about various aspects of the Creator's work. This humble attitude helped in their work, and was probably best expressed by Newton in his quote:
"I do not know what I may appear to the world; but to myself I seem to have been only like a boy playing on the seashore, and diverting myself in now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me".

156 posted on 06/17/2007 10:46:25 PM PDT by El Cid (For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.)
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To: El Cid

Time for bed and no time for your nonsense tonight. Good luck on living in a world that has long past your kind by.


158 posted on 06/17/2007 10:48:29 PM PDT by sentis1
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To: El Cid
his unwavering belief didn't stop men such as Isaac Newton, Johan Kepler, Louis Pasteur, JC Maxwell, etc., from engaging in real science. These men understood God was the Creator and Master of the Universe, and the purpose of Science was to learn about various aspects of the Creator's work

Yes, but unfortunetly it is causing many today to deny science.

194 posted on 06/18/2007 8:56:36 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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