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To: MattMa
Actually, I think it’s not dying because the powers-that-be like the cash they’re being offered by those big businesses who benefit from illegal labor. The senators know we’re outraged, so in the end, the revival attempt will fail. They know that, too. What they don’t know is just how outraged we are.

They think A), We’ll have forgotten and moved on come election day;
B) Enough new “citizens” will now vote for them, so they don’t need their base;
or C) They’re too stupid and insulated in DC by the DBM that they really think that we’re all a bunch of ignorant, racist yahoos and the majority won’t mind the 12-20 million new “citizens” who will keep us in cheap lettuce and well-manicured lawns.

Beyond that I’m bewildered. I am still a Bush supporter, believe it or not, as I am still glad we aren’t berating President Kerry or Gore, but the man is sorely trying my deep Republican roots.

Sometimes I wonder how in touch regular Americans are with politics, as compared to us FReepers. But believe me, I’ve heard an earful these past few weeks about how ticked EVERYONE is about any proposed amnesty and I think the DBM and entrenched Washington establishment are really missunderestimating our anger.

30 posted on 06/17/2007 5:55:07 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

Sen Norm Coleman would seem to indicate that is slowly changing. Coleman use to be a D, is a squishy R and has been a very reliable Bush vote in the US Senate.

When asked about this bill, Sen Coleman said his phone calls were running 30-1 against this bill. Said the Border Security measures would take at least 18 months to get fully in place and no one was going trust DC on this issue until those things were done.


38 posted on 06/17/2007 5:59:40 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
12-20 million new "citizens" just describes the ones that are already here; not the ones who will flood the border so they can get here and fake credentials to stay here.

One item that never gets mentioned is the cost of cleaning up the SSN's that illegals have used to falsify their right to work in this country. Even with 9 digits to choose from, there are only so many SSN's available.

You might get a statement every few years from SS that shows your earnings credit, but:

If you max out anyway, there is no way to tell if somebody is using your SSN;

If somebody is using dear old Uncle Fred's SSN, and Uncle Fred has already passed, who is checking that?

And if you register your new-born in order to comply with IRS regulations, then find out that child's SSN has routinely had earnings reported to it, where and how does all that get straightened out?

All this so the government can decriminalize identity theft. Too bad Ted Kennedy and John Kerry and John Edwards don't allow illegals to use their identity as covers for the illegal actions.

44 posted on 06/17/2007 6:07:06 AM PDT by Bernard (You can't fix stupid. Stop trying.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Interesting tidbit I came across this morning on The Corner @ NRO which gives exposure to the audacity of some immigration lawyers:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/

Jobs Americans Won’t Do, Part DCCLXIX [Mark Krikorian]

The indefatigable Norm Matloff, a computer science professor at UC Davis, pointed me to this video of an immigration lawyer explaining to clients how to pretend to look for American workers in such a way as to make sure they don’t actually find any (it’s at about 7:55). The law firm may take the video down once it gets some publicity, so here’s the nut graf:

” And our goal is clearly not to find a qualified and interested U.S. worker. And you know in a sense that sounds funny, but it’s what we’re trying to do here. We are complying with the law fully, but ah, our objective is to get this person a green card, and get through the labor certification process. So certainly we are not going to try to find a place [at which to advertise the job] where the applicants are the most numerous. We’re going to try to find a place where we can comply with the law, and hoping, and likely, not to find qualified and interested worker applicants. “

06/16 08:23 PM


50 posted on 06/17/2007 6:14:23 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: Alas Babylon!; All
Great post here special award time AB!

I too thought the same thing about your news cycle take of we would have forgotten all about the immigration debacle come election time. Problem is here at FR we never stop letting them know about what a true debacle open borders are. So the critters are even dumber than we thought.

As far as GW goes, its difficult to analyzes his thinking unless you bring into play the uniting of the Americas like EC proposed and documented last week. His desire to unite Mexico, Canada, maybe Central America and the US together in a sort of EU under one leaky roof is the only thing that makes sense. Although he should know we will never go for such a fiasco.

So once again everything they(the Congress and ADM.) are doing is just beyond the pale, makes no sense, and only serves to piss all off more than we already were.

91 posted on 06/17/2007 6:47:43 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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