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To: kellynla
What gets me is the matchless stupidty of what the amnesty bill's proponents in DC, the RNC, and trolls here on FR say. They have no rational rebuttals; their arguments consist of these three tiresome statements repeated ad nauseum ad infinitum:

1. If you're against these bills you're a racist, just like the people who were against the Irish and the Eyetalians.

Gee, I guess I missed the part in Geography class about Ireland and Italy sharing a common border with the US, AND about them losing territory to the US in a war, AND of their citizenry being taught that they have a right to take back these lands by any means necessary including violence. There is NO COMPARISON between today's illegal aliens and yesteryear's legal Mediterranean , Slavic, and Celtic immigrants. when did these folks ever march in the streets by the hundreds of thousands, waving their country's flag and proclaiming they were going to "take back" the southwest and expel the "European intruders" ?

2. If you're against this bill, get ready for Hilary or Pelosi as president.

It offends me when this crap is trotted out by some dimwit troll on FR, but when it's a part of an RNC mailing, my blood pressure really spikes, because the contempt for my intelligence becomes just too obvious. Well, golly, why should I be scared of a NP or a HRC presidency? What are they going to do : Be in favor of open borders and the loss of US sovereignty (eg LOST treaty), a preference for criminal aliens over US citizens, and delight in showing an utter contempt for the values of US citizens, 80% of whom are united against this bill? We have that NOW, so how can getting more of the same be any scarier, just because that POS has a D after its name instead of an R? I like what someone said about the two parties : They're both wings of the same evil bird of prey, and the prey is the American citizenry.

3. If you're against this bill, you don't support the president in the War on Terror.

What War on Terror? If the people in DC really cared about the WOT and gave a good G*****n about the lives of Americans, the borders would have been sealed on 09/12/2001. We've had multiple reports about hastily abandoned prayer rugs and korans being found, so we know moslem illegals are sneaking over the TX-MX border, and in large numbers, and the Chinese as well-thousands of OTMs since 09/11/2001. The fact that the borders weren't sealed makes it very easy to believe that the WOT is exactly what the critics said even back in 09/2001 : It's a smokescreen for a power grab.

10 posted on 06/16/2007 7:02:48 AM PDT by Verloona Ti
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To: Verloona Ti
I like what someone said about the two parties : They're both wings of the same evil bird of prey, and the prey is the American citizenry.

Wonderful statement. May I use it as a tag line?

27 posted on 06/16/2007 7:41:08 AM PDT by no_lectures_please (I think all legal Americans should get 5 votes apiece to make up for the "new" voters.)
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To: Verloona Ti

BTTT. EVERY WORD OF YOUR POST.


39 posted on 06/16/2007 7:56:25 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile ("What a cruel reflection that a rich country cannot long be a free one." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Verloona Ti
"What War on Terror? If the people in DC really cared about the WOT and gave a good G*****n about the lives of Americans, the borders would have been sealed on 09/12/2001."

Should have been done, and while it would have been difficult to swing it in a day, we've had YEARS. I encounter the same "arguments" on this and other conservative boards, and find it difficult to be civil when confronted with such idiocy. No doubt I'll be banned from one or more before this is done.

46 posted on 06/16/2007 8:09:48 AM PDT by MizSterious (Recovering Bushbot)
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To: Verloona Ti

Post #10 well said, clapping hands.


57 posted on 06/16/2007 8:22:29 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Verloona Ti
There is NO COMPARISON between today's illegal aliens and yesteryear's legal Mediterranean , Slavic, and Celtic immigrants.

My father is an Italian immigrant and this bill is an affront to him and his fellow immigrants who made countless sacrifices to follow the rule of law to become a U.S. citizen. For my father, he couldn't see his own father for 6 years during his childhood while he was waiting for citizenship. But when they got through it all they were Americans in every sense of the word. It turns out, he would have been better off jumping a fence and stealing someone's identity.

George Bush is giving a big middle finger to every person who ever immigrated to this country legally.

125 posted on 06/16/2007 2:17:30 PM PDT by Texas Federalist (Fred!)
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