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Going Down with the Ship(Michael Reagan & the GOP)
Human Events Online ^ | 06/15/2007 | Michael Reagan

Posted on 06/16/2007 6:34:45 AM PDT by kellynla

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To: Sybeck1

Well now you got to build the website. If you’re not sure how to do that you can hire someone out or get a friend to help you. Check around in your local area, you might be able to get a deal if you keep it simple.


41 posted on 06/16/2007 8:01:09 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: TruthSetsUFree

It’s not conservative to dismantle your country so that transnational corporations can have unfettered control of borders, customs, infrastructure and the government.

It’s not conservative at all. As we are learning, constitutional guarantees for free speech, freedom of association,taxation without representation, protection of marriage, protection of the unborn,are all vanishing because of this presidency, his predecessor and his father’s presidencies.

He has not ‘conserved’ his country, he is dismantling it.


42 posted on 06/16/2007 8:01:34 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: TruthSetsUFree
Bush could have easily attended lunch at the Senate to ask for help to reinstate the tax cuts that will sunset in a couple of years, or to tackle entitlement spending and privatizing social security.

No he go there to make millions of law breakers legal.

43 posted on 06/16/2007 8:06:17 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Recall Lott)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

“...because the alternative of having an aggressive, Palestinian-like enemy state on our southern border is far worse.”

Americans love America, and have defended their country against at least three evil Mexican governments...and now our ‘leadership’ refuses to. If you think that the reason Bush is letting the borders remain a sieve is to help America avoid a Chavez-style southern dictatorship, you’re just fantasizing. He’s doing it to help his crony capitalist pals in Mexico keep a firm hold on the country, and trying for amnesty to help his pals in big business keep their cheap labor without gambling on their own personal liability. If Bush were at all concerned about this country and its security from ‘a Palestine-like enemy state on our southern border,’ he’d have built the same style wall the Israelis have built around ‘Palestine’ years ago. He has proven he just doesn’t care—and thinks we’ll buy the lies one more time. Even if he were to suddenly vocalize all the fears you’ve enumerated, he’d still be eviscerated, and rightly so, for not doing anything to prepare for the worst case scenario...especially since conservatives have said after 9/11 that the open southern border is not just an economic and legal travesty, but a military liability.


44 posted on 06/16/2007 8:07:04 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile ("What a cruel reflection that a rich country cannot long be a free one." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: TruthSetsUFree

“I think it’s very sad that the conservative base cannot separate out the issues they disagree with from all the rest of the good this president has done for this country.”

This is NOT a conservative or Republican or Democrat issue. Here’s something to ponder:

A individual leases a used Mansion. They buy the best of the best in remmodeling efforts. Prime paint, custom woodwork. The longest and strongest lasting carpet on the market, hands-down...guaranteed to withstand the most traffic and toughest stain attempts. The yard gets a complete make-over as well. The grass is green, all the hired hands are well paid and the neighbors couldn’t be happier to have them. Even their property value increased.

Nearing the end of an 8 year lease, rumors are afloat that the individual is going to burn the mansion to the ground. Now you have some stake because you also have been leasing a room in the mansion for over (xx) years and you really have a stake in the mansion’s future.

What are you going to do? I see you have but one option.


45 posted on 06/16/2007 8:07:42 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Verloona Ti
"What War on Terror? If the people in DC really cared about the WOT and gave a good G*****n about the lives of Americans, the borders would have been sealed on 09/12/2001."

Should have been done, and while it would have been difficult to swing it in a day, we've had YEARS. I encounter the same "arguments" on this and other conservative boards, and find it difficult to be civil when confronted with such idiocy. No doubt I'll be banned from one or more before this is done.

46 posted on 06/16/2007 8:09:48 AM PDT by MizSterious (Recovering Bushbot)
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To: kellynla
Did he really, seriously think that Harry Reid was going to be his friend and help patch the sinking GOP hull?

Harry will let W and McCain pull the scab off as often as they want.

47 posted on 06/16/2007 8:09:57 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: kellynla

lib/dems - no cajones republicans & jorge bush...all the same...determined to sell out the US to illegal invading hordes...

the new party (will be a fiesta)....and the US tax payers are the pinata!!!

the best words of advice.....start learning to speak spanish!!!!


48 posted on 06/16/2007 8:10:04 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: jedward

P.S. If anyone reads that and doesn’t feel like they have a stake in the mansion’s future...it means you have been numbed by socialist thinking. We ALL have a stake in this!


49 posted on 06/16/2007 8:11:37 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Seems the country hates your side just as much."

Would you care for a violin so you can play while Rome burns?

50 posted on 06/16/2007 8:13:12 AM PDT by MizSterious (Recovering Bushbot)
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51 posted on 06/16/2007 8:15:47 AM PDT by firewalk
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To: JackRyanCIA
I remember how people were saying thing like “Bush is a master. He’s just doing a rope-a-dope and fooling the left” or “Bush just plays dumb to let the left hang themselves”.

Yeah, sadly I was one of 'em. :(

52 posted on 06/16/2007 8:16:50 AM PDT by MizSterious (Recovering Bushbot)
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To: jedward

If this were just about votes and cheap labor, both parties would win by letting this bill die . They already HAVE open borders and a de facto amnesty, so why this bill? Is it just GWB’s stubbornness? If the bill dies, the Democrats and (presumably) the Republicans who want it (ie, GWB) get the credit for trying, Big Business still has what it wants, the aliens can continue to enter and not leave, and the 80% of Americans who are against this bill would be placated (or so they think) . But he insists on pushing this bill! And the only reason I can see (besides stubbornness to the point of mental illness) is to send a signal to those heads of state who were afraid of the Free Trade Area of the Americas, because they feared DC would dominate such a union, and manipulate it in favor of Americans at every turn. After all, if a monstrous bill like this can be passed over the objections of 80% of Americans, then plainly we’re already nothing but a peasant class to be taxed, sent off to wars when needed, and otherwise ignored. Therefore the prospective members of the FTAA/AU have nothing to fear re: US favoritism towards its own citizenry.


53 posted on 06/16/2007 8:19:32 AM PDT by Verloona Ti
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Well at least you label it as a premise. Unfortunately, it's totally inworkable.

1) Illegal immigration is providing a safety valve to keep Mexico from slipping into Communist revolution.

We already have 20 million Mexicans here who, were they deported, have already seen the benefits of capitalism. If they truly knew the dangers of socialism, they would have no choice other than to fight the kleptocracy that has ruined Mexico. We should educate, train, and arm them to do it. Instead of accepting an enemy force within our borders we should do what we can to turn the tables.

Now, lest you think this pollyanish, consider the effectiveness of what we ARE doing... As things are now, our "educators" teach them to fight us, as criminals they develop networks to fight us, and their employers treat them like spit.

Democrats, as usual, are working to ensure America's defeat. To win the long war, we'd best think outside the box or we're through.

54 posted on 06/16/2007 8:19:57 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser: Fashionable fascism for Kaleeforia, one charade at a time.)
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To: Guenevere
"Great article from Michael Reagan. Perfect analysis. The GOP is headed down like the Whigs."

It looked a lot worse for GOP fans following '74 and '76 elections. But from out of the past, rode RWR. History will repeat in '08...just as soon as he declares.

Michael is a little too melodramatic for me...he sees the Abyss about every other week.

55 posted on 06/16/2007 8:22:09 AM PDT by LEARNED FOREVER
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To: MizSterious

I should’ve said, started taking steps to seal the borders on 09/12/2001. :-)And I did mean both the Canadian/US, and the Mexico/US borders : There’ve been disturbing reports about islamic terrorist wannabe’s at least, entering via Canada.


56 posted on 06/16/2007 8:22:12 AM PDT by Verloona Ti
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To: Verloona Ti

Post #10 well said, clapping hands.


57 posted on 06/16/2007 8:22:29 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Verloona Ti

“Therefore the prospective members of the FTAA/AU have nothing to fear re: US favoritism towards its own citizenry.”

Excellent post, and your last sentence above speaks volumes!


58 posted on 06/16/2007 8:23:38 AM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: Doofer

>>Personally I think Bush has lost his marbles.......<<

I think, like Captain Queeg, he lost his marbles a while back, people have been mentioning it for some time, and now he has made it glaringly obvious to everyone.


59 posted on 06/16/2007 8:23:46 AM PDT by SerpentDove (If it walks like a lame duck, and quacks like a lame duck, it's a lame duck.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Thanks!


60 posted on 06/16/2007 8:23:47 AM PDT by Verloona Ti
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