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Hogs on the Hill
The Washington Times ^ | June 15, 2007 | Editorial Staff

Posted on 06/15/2007 7:59:25 AM PDT by gpapa

After increasing the national debt by more than $3.2 trillion over the previous six years, President Bush submitted a fiscal 2008 budget totaling $2.9 trillion, which represents a trillion-dollar-plus increase (56 percent) over the spending level ($1.86 trillion) he inherited from the 2001 budget. Mr. Bush's five-year budget blueprint would add nearly $600 billion to the national debt in 2008 alone and another $1.9 trillion over the next four years. To keep the debt from soaring even higher, the president had to rely on numerous delusional assumptions. These included the absurd notions that his global war on terror would cost $50 billion in 2009 (and zero thereafter) and that he, his successor and Congress will be hitting tens of millions of middle- and upper-middle-class families with the alternative minimum tax over the next five years.

(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: budget; earmarks; itsonlymoney; outofcontrolspending; pork; spending

1 posted on 06/15/2007 7:59:27 AM PDT by gpapa
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To: gpapa

Guess the Washington Times slept thru their Civic class.

Congress, not the President, spends the money.

But that right, it not about the facts, it just about the Whiny Right finding the latest excuse to go into hysterics at their own side.

Sure be nice if ONE time the Right might take on the Political Left on ANYTHING.


2 posted on 06/15/2007 8:02:57 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: gpapa
The president is right: Democrats are bigger spendthrifts than Republicans.

I used to believe that. But after the last 7 years I have come to the conclusion that the Republicans are no better when if comes to spending taxpayer money.

3 posted on 06/15/2007 8:05:36 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: MNJohnnie
The President couldn't have whipped out that veto pen? No... instead, he exhorts them to spend MORE...

Bush is NO "conservative".

4 posted on 06/15/2007 8:06:03 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: gpapa

Queen Sow... Hillary.


5 posted on 06/15/2007 8:06:32 AM PDT by xcamel ("It's Thompson Time!")
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To: gpapa
http://news.google.com/news?um=1&tab=wn&channel=s&client=firefox-a&hl=en&hs=09C&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=federal+deficit&btnG=Search+News

Federal deficit sharply lower

Guess the simply choice to ignore these facts too. Seems contrary to their Chicken Little predictions, the world is not ending.

6 posted on 06/15/2007 8:07:28 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: MNJohnnie
President Bush submitted a fiscal 2008 budget totaling $2.9 trillion - A Republican Congress SPENT it, but it IS the Presidents submission. Do you blame the Dem Congress for the Presidents budget?
8 posted on 06/15/2007 8:13:01 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: MNJohnnie
Spend more. Take in more because the economy is on an upswing.

You aren't too brite on economics either are you Bot-boy? What happens to those deficits when the economy cycles back around?

Also, those numbers don't take into account all of Bush's unfunded liabilities like his "drugs for geezers" program.

9 posted on 06/15/2007 8:13:19 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: gpapa

10 posted on 06/15/2007 8:14:28 AM PDT by mirkwood ("May noise never excite us to battle, or confusions reduce us to defeat.")
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To: MNJohnnie
Guess they simply choice to ignore these facts too.

They don't bother to do their research because it doesn't suit their agenda. It's not just them...it's been happening here on FR lately, people are in a frenzy, eating their own and refusing to listen to reason or facts. I have never in my FR life seen so many highjacked and spammed threads and blatent disrespect for the President. It's gotten to the point where I don't even want to be on this forum anymore.

11 posted on 06/15/2007 8:23:33 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter

Who says we have to follow some kind of formula down the road to hell. The Congress and President need to be shaken up right now. They are not doing the people’s will. In case you have forgotten, Americans are suppose to be free in their thinking and speech.

Also, you don’t have to always study what you call the facts(sometimes they ain’t the real and true facts) It just takes a little common sense to figure it out.


12 posted on 06/15/2007 8:32:05 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: gpapa

I thought this was going to be a discussion of Bikers.

It might be a good idea to elect bikers to Congress, at least those of us the believe in freedom, personal choice and responsibility.

Also, if ALL Congressmen were bikers, they’d rather be out ridin’, than passin’ more stupid laws.


13 posted on 06/15/2007 8:59:07 AM PDT by wizr (Freedom ain't free.. Common sense ain't common,. Read Jeremiah, Chapters 18 & 19)
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To: MNJohnnie
Federal deficit sharply lower

Sharply lower than what? The deficit that the President inherited? That, at least in the funny-money federal book keeping world, was actually a surplus. Since then federal spending has exceeded federal income. On a dollar basis the federal government has never, ever taken in more money than it does today, and it still spends more than it takes in. Will it take in even more next year? I have no idea. But the one thing I am sure of is that next year and the year after spending will keep increasing. Because neither the president or the Republicans in Congress are willing to do anything to halt it.

14 posted on 06/15/2007 9:02:20 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Guess the Washington Times slept thru their Civic class. Congress, not the President, spends the money.

Not really. They initiate. The POTUS has to sign it.

15 posted on 06/15/2007 12:12:07 PM PDT by Inquisitive1 (I know nothing except the fact of my ignorance - Socrates)
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To: MNJohnnie
Congress, not the President, spends the money.

Actually, the Congress appropriates the money, and the President -- the Chief Executive -- spends the money.

16 posted on 06/15/2007 12:17:34 PM PDT by kevao
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