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To: Gengis Khan
That depends on who or what you call “Taliban”. Check post #100. Taliban didnt just evolve overnight. Most were just old warlords from other millitias forged together by the ISI. That still does not justify Rohrabacher allying with the Talibans.

The Taliban has nothing to do with the LOCAL Afghan Mujahideen whom the USA supported, along with Congressman Rohrbacher's support. THE TALIBAN & AL QAEDA ARE MOSTLY FOREIGN JIHADIS. The USA supported the LOCAL Afhgan Mujahideen. The Taliban spent a 10-year bloody war conquering Afghanistan one yard at a time. WHOM DO YOU THINK THEY WERE FIGHTING? Are you completely ignorant of what happened in Afghanistan, or do the facts simply not matter to you? WHOM do you think the Taliban spent 10 years fighting against to take over Afhganistan? The Taliban were teh enemies of those who were our friends in Afghanistan.
114 posted on 07/04/2007 11:10:06 AM PDT by Moseley (http://www.ColdPeace.com)
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To: Moseley
“THE TALIBAN & AL QAEDA ARE MOSTLY FOREIGN JIHADIS.”

Taliban are foreign Jihadis???!!! Wow! Thats news to me. Which country do they come from?? I mean the Taliban?

The Al Qaeda come from many different Muslim country (mainly the middle east) but the Taliban? Who or what exactly are according to you “LOCAL Afhgan Mujahideen”?

Ok as a start, google the word Pashtun, Pakhtoon or Pathans. Find out who these people are and what they have to do with the Taliban. Find out what part of Afghanistan and Pakistan do they live in.

And dont argue with me on the subject. I am not only half Punjabi and speak a language closely related to Pushtu, I have good knowledge of about the rise of Taliban.

And now to answer your nonsensical post.....

The Taliban was born inside Pakistan madrassas which during the day of Soviet invasion thrived with Saudi and CIA money and was operated and controlled by the ISI. The student (who later on became “Jihadis”) were ethnic Pashtuns from both sides of the Durand line and and it was hard to clearly differentiate them as either Pakistani or Afghans. In those day (while the Talibans were still breeding inside Pakistani incubators) Pakistan and ISI supported Gulbuddin Hekmatyar. At different times all throught the period of Soviet occupation of Afghanistan and there after, Pakistan, Iran and neighbouring CIS states supported different warlords and intermittently switched sides and patronage for different groups. Even warlords, field commanders, and local militias also switched sides.

In those day the Gulbuddin Hekmatyar (who were ethnic Pashtuns) were fighting Ahmed Shah Massoud (Tajik) and Rashid Dostum (Uzbek). All of them are “LOCAL” Afghans belonging to different ethnic groups.

Gulbudding Hekmatyar lost favour with Pakistan and later on got into a power sharing arrangement with the Rabbani government.

The “Taliban” was assembled by the ISI form different ethnic Pashtun mujahideen groups like the Hekmatyar Hezb i Islami and Harakat i Inqilab i Islam, all of them were former “AFGHAN MUJAHEDEENS”. (Mujahedeen means God’s warrior or the one fighting an jihad.) Mullah Mohammed Omar was himself a “Mujahedeen” who fought Soviets on the side of Harakat i Inqilab i Islam. Most of these Durrani Pashtuns who earlier fought jihad against the Soviets under different factions and radical ethnic pashtun student from Pakistani madrassas together formed the group we know today as the Taliban. With the exception of a few Pakistanis and just a handfull of foreigners they were all 90% Afghans Sunni Pashtuns. BTW Afghanistan was 42% Pashtun. All the commanders of the Taliban including Mullah Omar himself were hardened former Afghan Mujahedeens who fought against the Soviets.

And who they were fighting “one yard at a time”? Uzbeks, Tajiks, Hazaras, Ismailies, Turkomans .... different groups at different points of time. All of these were local Afghans too but just different ethnic groups.

Now CIA’s help were mostly channeled via Pakistan (ISI) to mostly the Pashtun groups. Hekmatyar who enjoyed Pakistan’s support got most of that benefits that later on got transferred to the Taliban. The Taliban even got the stingers from Pakistan.

These guys were Pakistan’s (ISI’s) and Taliban’s biggest enemies. The NA based in Panjshir got their supplies from mostly Russia, India and Iran not the US.

BTW do you deny Rohrabacher met Muttawakil or Mullah Omar and wanted to make peace with these guys? Or are you saying Muttawakil or Mullah Omar are foreigners and not Afghans? What exactly?

If Talibans according to you are “foreigners”, what country do they come from? And exactly which group were your “friends” in the Afghanistan? More specific details beyond just the general statements will be appreciated.

116 posted on 07/05/2007 7:28:44 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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