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Army Wants to Enlist Illegals
Newsmax ^ | June 14, 2007 | Newsmax

Posted on 06/14/2007 3:27:32 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Bill Carr, acting deputy undersecretary of defense for military personnel policy, expressed hope today during a telephone conference with veterans’ group representatives that a provision in the stalled immigration bill that would have allowed some undocumented aliens to join the military won’t stall as well.

The Army recruited 5,101 active-duty soldiers in May, 399 short of its 5,500-soldier goal, the Defense Department recently announced.

The Navy and Air Force, however, both met their May goals, with 2,709 and 2,451 recruits, respectively. The Marine Corps exceeded its May goal by 34 percent, signing on 2,225 new Marines.

The provision at stake is the Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors, or DREAM that offered illegal residents a way to join the military and, ultimately, become citizens, Carr explained.

"In other words, if you had come across (the border) with your parents, yet you were a minor child and have been in the U.S. school system for a number of years, then you could be eligible to enlist,” he said. "And at the end of that enlistment, then you would be eligible to become a citizen.”

Because the provision would have applied only to the "cream of the crop” of students who have demonstrated top aptitude, it would have been "very appealing” to the military, Carr said. "It would have been good for readiness,” he added.

© NewsMax 2007. All rights reserved.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: airforce; army; dod; dream; illegalaliens; immigration; immigrationbill; marines; navy; quotas; recruitment
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Closer and closer the resemblance to Rome.


61 posted on 06/14/2007 5:25:46 PM PDT by Grunthor (Imwithfred.com)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

Illegal aliens manning our Armed Forces?

Why not take the next logical step and outsource all our military manpower needs to China?

Use of non-citizens worked for the Rome.

Oh, wait.


62 posted on 06/14/2007 5:26:02 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (Bush's Legacy: 100 million new Dem voters in next 20 yrs via the 2007 Amnesty Act.)
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To: B4Ranch
What does this kid do about his divided allegiance?

Who said anything about a divided allegiance? This is the only country the kid knows and loves it enough to join the Army.

63 posted on 06/14/2007 5:27:40 PM PDT by AmusedBystander (Republicans - doing the work that Democrats won't do since 1854.)
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To: jude24

“Statesmen don’t give a flip “what the public wants.”

Neither do traitors who sell out their nation to third world interests for cheap illegal labor.


64 posted on 06/14/2007 5:33:12 PM PDT by Grunthor (Imwithfred.com)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I see no benefit in changing the current residency standards, as I understand them, with respect to enlisting non-citizens in the US Army.

Residency standards for enlistment of non-citizens:

(1) Entered the United States on a permanent residence visa or has an Alien Registration Receipt Card (INS Form 1-551/I-551 greencard or stamped I-94), and (2) Established a bona fide residence, and (3) Established a home of record in the United States.
65 posted on 06/14/2007 5:48:32 PM PDT by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.-- Mencken)
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To: AmusedBystander
A number of people who join the Army do not do it for the love of this country. They might do it for adventure, a better pay than what they would earn in their own country, training to help get ahead in a drug cartel, etc.

Most foreigners will have at the least divided loyalties. Some will use their position to infiltrate the military and provide information to the enemy.

66 posted on 06/14/2007 5:58:36 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: AmusedBystander

Or his parents are filling him with La Raza propaganda and telling him he must remain in favor of his Mexican ancestors because America was stolen from Mexico.


67 posted on 06/14/2007 6:04:05 PM PDT by B4Ranch (DRIP = "Don't Return Incumbent Politicians," – two terms, and they're out.)
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To: SolidWood
Honestly I think that’s a good idea. Let able-bodied immigrants (also legals),
seeking citizenship, serve in the military first. Citizenship has to be deserved.

This is worthy of citizenship "and honorable" IMO. I agree wholeheartedly.

68 posted on 06/14/2007 6:12:20 PM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: OldArmy52

Exactamundo.


69 posted on 06/14/2007 6:12:56 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Army Wants to Enlist Illegals?

Please permit me to give my reply in Spanish...

No.

70 posted on 06/14/2007 9:23:46 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: jude24

Too many around here act as if the U.S. is supposed to be a democracy instead of a republic.


71 posted on 06/14/2007 10:13:09 PM PDT by B. Chezwick (It is every true Christian's duty to defend Israel with their very life.)
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To: dragnet2

If Americans won’t do the job, then what else do you expect? Would it be better to have criminals running around loose?


72 posted on 06/14/2007 10:17:09 PM PDT by B. Chezwick (It is every true Christian's duty to defend Israel with their very life.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

insanity


73 posted on 06/14/2007 10:19:46 PM PDT by television is just wrong (Amnesty is when you allow them to return to their country of origin without prosecution.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

That’s a very liberal thing to say about our fighting men and women.


74 posted on 06/14/2007 10:19:49 PM PDT by B. Chezwick (It is every true Christian's duty to defend Israel with their very life.)
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To: jude24

Absolutely. I’ll take a million immigrants ready to fight for their new country any day of the week over the soft liberal and psuedo-conservative “Americans” that sit on their fat backsides and depend on their betters in our armed forces to keep them free.


75 posted on 06/14/2007 10:24:44 PM PDT by B. Chezwick (It is every true Christian's duty to defend Israel with their very life.)
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To: Dante3

another side benefit to consider for military service is that the vast majority of service members are Republican or conservative. Thus, the illegals who served will have picked up a healthy dose of conservative thinking, true patriotism, and overall, the right attitude about being an American.


76 posted on 06/14/2007 10:31:58 PM PDT by bioqubit (bioqubit, conformity - such a common deformity)
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To: dragnet2

lol


77 posted on 06/14/2007 10:36:47 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: B. Chezwick
I do not want a bunch of criminals being allowed to join our fine Military!
78 posted on 06/15/2007 12:21:28 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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