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100 PERCENT MARGINAL TAX RATE
NCPA Daily Policy Digest ^ | 6/14/2007 | Editorial

Posted on 06/14/2007 11:43:14 AM PDT by bruinbirdman

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To: Myrddin

Remember the old luxury tax ?

The elites then had their expensive yachts built over seas. The government collected very little revenue.

Ten of thousands of middle class families suffered from the loss of these good paying jobs. It hit the direct ship yard workers and also the secondary set of workers and their families ( nearby restaurant, shopping, entertainment jobs and businesses ).


21 posted on 06/14/2007 1:02:05 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: The Great RJ
Moving to Australia is looking better all the time.

I plan to stay and fight to take my country back.

22 posted on 06/14/2007 1:07:00 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: fightinbluhen51
"Income tax is an “earned” money tax.

Not correct. There is "earned income" (wages, tips, etc.) and there is "unearned income" (dividends, interest, capital gains, etc).

Income tax is owed on any and all "income" (earned and unearned)after all considerations (deductions, allowances, etc.)

yitbos

23 posted on 06/14/2007 1:42:50 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: boop
Uh, abolish the AMT and poof! they don’t have to go through all of these machinations.

I never pay the AMT, so that means I already pay more than those with the same income as me. And they should be paying even less?

24 posted on 06/14/2007 1:48:31 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: bruinbirdman

Predictable Dhimmicrat socialism.


25 posted on 06/14/2007 1:49:28 PM PDT by OK
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To: bruinbirdman
Ok, for the purposes of this article...income tax on your earned income...sorry my semantics didn’t get in there good enough.

Remember...they aren’t talking about altering the capital gains rates, taking away tax free munis, ect.

26 posted on 06/14/2007 1:58:00 PM PDT by fightinbluhen51
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To: Doe Eyes
"I already pay more than those with the same income as me."

Yeah, that guy with six kids shouldn't get more deductions than you. And that retired guy who gets only dividend income on his portfolio should pay more than that fixed 15%.

That's the ticket. If the guy makes more, tax him until he has the same income as everyone else.

And while we're at it. If that guy doesn't make as much as others, give him some more until all are equal.

yitbos

27 posted on 06/14/2007 1:58:45 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: randomhero97

Of course it would be


28 posted on 06/14/2007 2:05:02 PM PDT by Kaslin (Fred Thompson for President 2008)
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To: bruinbirdman

this is direct result of the change in congressional leadership.

Those who whine about Republicans have no idea of what is really in store, once the redistributionists hold all the cards.


29 posted on 06/14/2007 2:08:47 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: fightinbluhen51
"Remember...they aren’t talking about altering the capital gains rates, taking away tax free munis, ect. "

Sure they are. "Ok, for the purposes of this article". It's right in the article:

"And because the proposal doesn't extend the Bush tax cuts,. . ."

GW and a Republican congress lowered taxes on dividends, increased gift tax exemption, increased inheritance tax exemption, increased 401K and IRA contributions, established Health Savings Accounts, increased Education Savings Account contributions, increased personal and dependent exemptions. And more.

yitbos

30 posted on 06/14/2007 2:09:29 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: bruinbirdman
Moreover, families with incomes between $250,000 and $500,000, the "marginal" tax rate paid on the next dollar of earned income could soar to 80 percent, or in some cases even above 100 percent. The point of this revenue grab is to pay for making families with earnings under $250,000 a year exempt from the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT):

That has got to be absolute insanity .... of course high level execs will get paid in stock and thus only be subject to capital gains taxes. But a pair of doctors will get SOAKED.

31 posted on 06/14/2007 2:10:20 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Killing all of your enemies without mercy is the only sure way of sleeping soundly at night.)
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To: bruinbirdman
Yeah, that guy with six kids shouldn't get more deductions than you. And that retired guy who gets only dividend income on his portfolio should pay more than that fixed 15%.

While your at it, don't forget about that rich guys that makes millions. We should really tax his ass.

32 posted on 06/14/2007 2:17:25 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Centurion2000
"of course high level execs will get paid in stock and thus only be subject to capital gains taxes."

In fact, that is exactly why the AMT was created. To make those "high level execs" pay more tax.

The problem is, the AMT is flawed. Now it will stick a lot of average Joes who are not CEOs.

yitbos

33 posted on 06/14/2007 2:19:58 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: bruinbirdman

Slowly but surely, inch by inch, we approach Democrat Tax Nirvana, where the great bulk of income tax revenues are paid by only a tiny minority of less than 10 percent of citizens with taxable income, while the vast majority of voters, because they pay little or no income taxes therefore have a vested interest in maintaining their happy state by voting for continuing Tax the Rich policies. Thus, there is will be no driving political motivation to reduce marginal income tax rates, but strong vote-getting appeal in imposing near confiscatory tax rates on the “rich,” members of that unworthy demographic that according to Al Gore “got lucky in life’s lottery.”


34 posted on 06/14/2007 2:20:34 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: Doe Eyes
"While your at it, don't forget about that rich guys that makes millions. We should really tax his ass."

Eh, eh. Once upon a time I had a boss (he owned the company). He advised me one day on efficiency.

"Why should I work my butt off hiring all these people, worrying about their welfare, providing this service and products, if I can't make more than a 5% profit? I might as well sell this company, put my money in Treasury Bonds at 5.5%, and go fishing."

yitbos

35 posted on 06/14/2007 2:28:05 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: poobear
Remember the luxury tax on yachts? Yachts aren't a necessity. The wealthy who could afford them simply stopped buying them when the tax was enacted. Many yacht companies went out of business. There is always an alternative to getting hit with the tax. For consumption taxes, don't consume. For income taxes, earn less. Cut expenses e.g. employees and unnecessary consumption as necessary to make up the difference. The net impact of "taxing the rich" is unemployment.
36 posted on 06/14/2007 2:31:55 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Doe Eyes
I never pay the AMT, so that means I already pay more than those with the same income as me. And they should be paying even less?

Wrong. It means you didn't tickle the right triggers when filing your income tax. I wouldn't have been hit by AMT if I hadn't claimed the my property taxes and minimal home mortgage interest on my investment/rental. I've been hit the last two years. $740 the first time. $940 the next time. My deductions are declared "single, 0". My wife does the same and has extra taken out to compensate for the "marriage penalty". I also lost my oldest son as a dependent.

37 posted on 06/14/2007 2:39:06 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Elsiejay
"while the vast majority of voters, because they pay little or no income taxes therefore have a vested interest in maintaining their happy state "

You will not even hear Republicans refer to the "payroll tax" in the same breath as income taxes. That is the killer of the low income. They all pay it. Over 13%.

Those on the bottom rung are happy enough only to look at "take home pay", never the tax withheld. They may think they are paying no income tax, but everyone of them is hit for payroll tax on everything they earn.

Social Security and Medicare Taxes are income taxes no matter what euphemism they are called. There are no deductions, no credits, no nothing on payroll taxes.

yitbos

38 posted on 06/14/2007 2:39:27 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: Myrddin
Wrong. It means you didn't tickle the right triggers when filing your income tax.

Please explain. When I do my taxes, its done with all my deductions. and then compared with the AMT.

39 posted on 06/14/2007 2:42:21 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Doe Eyes
While your at it, don't forget about that rich guys that makes millions. We should really tax his ass.

Those professional athletes and actors are really disgusting. How dare they demand all that money? Same for those CEOs. Anybody can do that work. And brain surgeons! Their labor is no more valuable than the janitor. Perhaps you should call the janitor when you need brain surgery next time. There may not be any of the "rich guys" interested in spending years getting the proper training.

40 posted on 06/14/2007 2:44:16 PM PDT by Myrddin
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