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To: kristinn; nthompsonwhitehouse

I haven’t read through 1000+ posts but I wonder if this spokesman has been asked directly about the SPP - the defacto North American Union of Canada, Mexico and the US.

I’m afraid that the White House is doing a vast misdirection on us, apparently assisted by the entire swamp of elitist and insular Senate “royalty”. Here we are on FR, arguing about their pathetic justifications, such as the need for family reunions, doing the work Americans won’t, the price of lettuce, or “’goshdarnit, we just can’t figure out how to deport all those good hardworking people, since we don’t know where they are, and jeez-louise, that would be cruel anyway, and we don’t have enough buses to ship them back...yadeyadeya”.

We accuse them variously of being in bed with fatcat CEO’s who want cheap labor, or we accuse Bush of being naively sentimental about all his Hispanic servants and that he wishes to reward all Mexicans for that, or we accuse them of being utterly incompetent, and that they couldn’t build a fence even if it came gift-wrapped and pre-fabbed from all the loyal citizens of this country.

I think the answer is much worse than that. The White House is happy to have us squabbling over these diversionary arguments. I think they honestly believe in the need for this North American Union. Perhaps they’re looking ahead to all the geopolitical realignments occuring in Asia, Russia, Europe and the Mideast, and calculate that in a world marked by large and hostile blocs of aligned countries, the US needs to solidify a union that guarantees resources, cheap labor and a bit of influence (coercive or otherwise) with Latin America. Mexico would be the perfect enforcer to do some arm-twisting way to the south.

Now, all that might make sense - which could explain why this White House is absolutely obsessive-compulsive about ramming this hugely unpopular shamnesty down our throats. I have never seen such energy, persistence and stamina from this administration on achieving any other initiative, especially in the face of clear, unified and adamant opposition from the base.

Their strategy might be as follows: Set the conditions for a massive influx of Mexicans into the US via this bill. After that - there is no way that citizens can stop whatever comes next, as the newcomers will vote (legally and/or illegally..after all - what are laws when they get in the way of this administration?) to keep these people in power to implement all measures necessary to complete the union. If Democrat voters ever wake up to see the Faustian bargain they smirkingly are mashing in Republican faces, it’ll be too late anyway. This bill, if it becomes law, will be the end of America as we know it.

So I would like to ask Nicholas Thompson directly, if the White House will absolutely and unequivocally state that it is committed to the Constitution and the sovereignty of the US, and that it repudiates any notion of forming a superstate composed of Canada, the US and Mexico, whereby there is free movement of peoples between all three countries. Would you be willing, as a White House spokesman, to state that for the record?


1,230 posted on 06/14/2007 9:55:53 PM PDT by guitfiddlist (When the 'Rats break out switchblades, it's no time to invoke Robert's Rules.)
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To: guitfiddlist

Wow, think you have hit on something here. Very well put and you got my attention.

In the back of my mind I have remembered Bush pushing for an eventual north american bloc to compete with European Union or the other alignments to come our way and his view that immigration will never be solved until the need for immigration is removed by equalizing the economy so they do not need to flee.

You have probably the most powerful post I have read tonight and you just might have hit on what is going on.


1,272 posted on 06/14/2007 10:12:17 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: La Enchiladita

ping!


1,285 posted on 06/14/2007 10:16:20 PM PDT by antceecee (Western countries really aren't up to winning this war on terror... it might offend the terrorists.)
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To: guitfiddlist

Interesting theory - and it might really be a choice between a socialistic democrat government in continual control of America or a North American Union bloc run by republicans.

If it is between those two - I would have to go with the republican group.

Maybe it would just be an adjustment with America intact but in a block of North America.


1,295 posted on 06/14/2007 10:20:40 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: guitfiddlist

This has been lurking in the back of my mind also. I don’t want to believe it of President Bush. I voted for him twice. I admire him as a Christian who is unapologetic for his faith. I’ve supported him in quite a few areas excepting this “immigration” issue and Harriet Miers. I feel betrayed. I feel he is betraying America and the folks who voted for him. What could be more basic than protecting and defending our country from enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC??!!


1,316 posted on 06/14/2007 10:35:58 PM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (Proud mom of twins girls who are US sailors!)
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To: guitfiddlist

Very well said. Did you get an answer?


1,367 posted on 06/14/2007 11:15:34 PM PDT by unfortunately a bluestater
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To: guitfiddlist
Very well stated.

Please ping me if you get an answer to your question:

“So I would like to ask Nicholas Thompson directly, if the White House will absolutely and unequivocally state that it is committed to the Constitution and the sovereignty of the US, and that it repudiates any notion of forming a superstate composed of Canada, the US and Mexico, whereby there is free movement of peoples between all three countries. Would you be willing, as a White House spokesman, to state that for the record?”

1,434 posted on 06/15/2007 5:09:31 AM PDT by Gvl_M3 (Sometimes, you have to stand up for yourself, even if it doesn't look "Compassionate.")
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To: guitfiddlist

“So I would like to ask Nicholas Thompson directly, if the White House will absolutely and unequivocally state that it is committed to the Constitution and the sovereignty of the US, and that it repudiates any notion of forming a superstate composed of Canada, the US and Mexico, whereby there is free movement of peoples between all three countries. Would you be willing, as a White House spokesman, to state that for the record?”

I would also like to have an answer to that question!


1,448 posted on 06/15/2007 6:06:01 AM PDT by CarolinaGOP ("Within the covers of the Bible are the answers for all the problems men face." - Ronald Reagan)
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