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Why The Gun In Civilization? - Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret) "An armed society is a polite society."
http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/ccw/37877-why-gun-civilization.html ^ | Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret)

Posted on 06/14/2007 9:11:34 AM PDT by InfantryMarine

Edited on 06/18/2007 4:54:56 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: InfantryMarine
Why The Gun In Civilization?

The same logic applies to nations as well.

"SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM." (If you wish for peace, prepare for war)

If you doubt this or lack the power to accept it, or it offends your idea of the way things "ought" to be, even for a moment, you do not even deserve freedom and you are not worthy of peace.

21 posted on 06/14/2007 11:35:34 AM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: InfantryMarine

OUT F***ing STANDING, Marine. The Major is spot on!!! Thanks for this!


22 posted on 06/14/2007 12:26:12 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: tpaine

Great essay Marine. Are you the author?

Negative ... I ain’t THAT smart!

lol!


23 posted on 06/14/2007 4:18:35 PM PDT by InfantryMarine
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To: InfantryMarine

“God created man, Sam Colt made them equal”


24 posted on 06/14/2007 4:23:40 PM PDT by Plains Drifter (If guns kill people, wouldn't there be a lot of dead people at gun shows?)
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To: InfantryMarine
“If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that’s it. “
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I can think of another...bribery. Bribery could be considered a form of “convincing via argument”, however. Or, from a capitalist’s point of view you could consider it nothing more than fair purchase at a mutually agreed upon price.

Then there is blackmail. Blackmail I suppose is a form of force, but not physical force. And the victim must be a willing accomplice. You can’t force someone to give in to blackmail. Well, unless you are actually using physical force or the threat of it as your method of blackmail.

But otherwise I agree with this article. Firearms aren’t called “THE GREAT EQUALIZER” for nothing. People should realize though that firearms can’t protect from everything. Crooked courts and rigged juries are one. Various predations inflicted by mega rich are another. Once the rule of law becomes corrupted to the point that armed resistance is necessary, you run the risk of total anarchy and destruction. How do you quell the violence after the rebels have disposed of the tyrants? Sometimes it isn’t so easy. Sometimes a purging of tyrants accomplishes nothing more than to make way for another gang of tyrants.

25 posted on 06/14/2007 5:26:56 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Tenacious 1
Yes! I have noticed the same thing about myself. I think it only works this way with reasonably sane and intelligent people, however.

I don’t want anyone knowing I have a firearm, and I don’t wan’t to ever have to use it. It’s my ace in the hole, and part of it’s value is knowing that it will be completely unsuspected when it is called upon for use. You have a totally new perspective and priorities when you know that an argument can potentially escalate to the taking of a life. Suddenly posturing and machismo is irrelevant, foolhardy, and even irresponsible. The fore-brain must prevail.

26 posted on 06/14/2007 5:39:27 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

This article was written by Marko Kloos.

Please see the links below to his blog:

http://munchkinwrangler.blogspot.com/2007/06/on-plagiarism.html

http://munchkinwrangler.blogspot.com/2007/03/why-gun-is-civilization.html


27 posted on 06/18/2007 4:46:47 PM PDT by glockenstein
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To: Joe Brower

Bang! Excellent article.


28 posted on 06/18/2007 4:51:13 PM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF *GOA*SAS)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ...
Good read.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

29 posted on 06/19/2007 6:25:47 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: dcwusmc

ping


30 posted on 06/19/2007 6:46:50 AM PDT by jmc813 (www.imwithfred.com - DONATE!)
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To: InfantryMarine

Quemadmoeum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est.” (A sword is never a killer, it’s a tool in the killer’s hands.) - Lucius Annaeus Seneca “the Younger” (ca. 4 BC-65 AD)

Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one. - Thomas Jefferson quoting Cesare Beccaria, Criminologist 1764.

Gun control laws increase the power of government and the criminal element over the average citizen and serve no other purpose. - Robert E. Lee

A goverment that fears arms in the hands of it people should also fear ROPE! - Nathan Bedford Forrest about 1845

It is hard to oppress a population equipped to hunt animals the size of a man. — L. Neil Smith, Pallas (New York: Tor, 1993), p. 380

Americans have the will to resist because you have weapons. If you don’t have a gun, freedom of speech has no power. - Yoshimi Ishikawa, Japanese author commenting on the lack of protest with which Japanese tolerated governmental corruption, Los Angeles Times, 10/15/92

The most important freedom of all is the freedom to defend freedom.- Kevin McGehee

Gun control, the opiate of the intellectuals: covert elitism laced with self-righteousness.


31 posted on 06/19/2007 6:54:26 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: InfantryMarine

Here’s the video of Suzanne Hupp testifying before congress.

http://www.washingtonceasefire.com/content/view/23/35/

Just one final statement.
I’ve been sitting here getting more and more fed up with all of this talk about these, pieces of machinery, having no legitimate sporting purpose, no legitimate hunting purpose, people, that is not the point of the second amendment!
The second amendment is not about duck hunting, and I know I’m not going to make very many friends saying this, but it’s about our right, all of our right to be able to protect our selves from all of you guys up there.
And nobody’s talked about that.

Dr. Suzanna Gratia, Killeen massacre survivor who watched as her parents were murdered because she obeyed Texas law and left her handgun locked in her car. Appearing before Rep Schumer’s committee hearings on the assault weapons ban


32 posted on 06/19/2007 7:02:43 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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To: Agent Smith

The problem with irrational/emotional appeal is that those who emply such arguments are willing to improve your judgement with their gun - although in the case of liberals, it’s a government gun, not one of their own. It would be too much to expect a lib to live the courage of their ‘convictions’.

In any case, libs always prefer to have someone else do their dirty work. That way, they can avoid any responsibility for their actions.


33 posted on 06/19/2007 7:32:44 AM PDT by Noumenon (The Koran is the Mein Kampf of a religion that has always aimed to eliminate the others - O. Fallaci)
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To: Joe Brower

Sure is good to be packing a pistol in FL, compared to packing a little folding knife in Cali.


34 posted on 06/19/2007 7:39:33 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee
That's affirm.
35 posted on 06/19/2007 7:57:23 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: InfantryMarine

Excellent post!


36 posted on 06/19/2007 8:32:28 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
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To: InfantryMarine
People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society.

Dead on.

37 posted on 06/19/2007 9:49:20 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: Joe Brower

Got me a 16” Bushie M-forgery too.

Try THAT in Cali!


38 posted on 06/19/2007 10:00:15 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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