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To: Gengis Khan
If I build my opinion on the US based on news reports of School shoot-outs, even if those reports are credible you think my perception of US would be accurate?

No, but that's small comfort if you happen to be the parent of one of the American kids killed in the shooting, or to an Indian Christian college student whose family has been murdered by a mob because of his religious affiliation.

Incidents such as that one are probably very uncommon in India just as school massacres are very rare in the US. But the mere fact that something like that can and occasionally does happen is enough to show the Hindu majority in a bad light. European Christians used to persecute and murder Jews and other non-Christians too, but they gave up that practice a couple of centuries ago and Christians now rightly condemn that awful practice. It's time that Indian Hindus condemn violent persecution of non-Hindus even if it only happens very rarely.

According to reports by Christian missionaries in India who serve there with the same mission org that my daughter serves with elsewhere, the desperately poor Dalits are converting to Christianity on a very large scale, and I imagine that situation is an irritating burr under the saddle for some Hindus.

89 posted on 06/14/2007 5:13:45 PM PDT by epow ( Policies are many, principles are few, policies change, principles never do)
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To: epow; Gengis Khan
European Christians used to persecute and murder Jews and other non-Christians too, but they gave up that practice a couple of centuries ago and Christians now rightly condemn that awful practice. It's time that Indian Hindus condemn violent persecution of non-Hindus even if it only happens very rarely.

Ha! A couple of centuries ago? Damn, it's not even been seven decades since the last pogrom. Besides, the Catholics and Protestants have been murdering each other in Ireland, with the tension still somewhat thick, and the anti-Semitic killings still happen in Europe, with the Muslims joining in with the neo-Nazis. All that talk of persecution dead in Europe is nonsense. By extension, racial killings happen in the US too.

94 posted on 06/14/2007 9:22:00 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: epow

No, but that's small comfort if you happen to be the parent of one of the American kids killed in the shooting, or to an Indian Christian college student whose family has been murdered by a mob because of his religious affiliation.

It is small comfort but that however is not the answer to my question. My question was, if an outsider were to form an opinion on America based on news reports of rape, murder, violence and shoot-outs how accurate would his perception of US be? The experience of being victim to such incidents has nothing to do with what I asked.

BTW I have not come across any recent news about any Indian Christian college student's family has being murdered unless it is another of the WND, compass direct or persecution.org tripe.

Incidents such as that one are probably very uncommon in India just as school massacres are very rare in the US. But the mere fact that something like that can and occasionally does happen is enough to show the Hindu majority in a bad light.

Thats how the Christian propagandists want it. If Hindus can be shown in bad light, Christians would claim their cultural/religious superiority status over others. Thats is the sole reason why you have scores of such Christian propagandist sites that thrive on "persecution new". Even rare incidents are enough to give them the ammo they need to malign the Hindus. When there are no incidents, they will fabricate one. I have rarely seen any of their report corroborated by other mainstream media (Indian or Foreign). Moreover their article have a clear bias, as if the other side of the story does even exist. Christians are always the victims and Hindus are guilty....thats it! Verdict is given on the spot. Most of their stories are based on rumors, hearsay and use weasel words like "local source". Even cheap communist propaganda sounds more credible then those like the above article.

 

European Christians used to persecute and murder Jews and other non-Christians too, but they gave up that practice a couple of centuries ago and Christians now rightly condemn that awful practice. 

I am not so sure of that. Check post #44

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/717775.stm

BTW these are BBC articles and not some con article from a dubious site. And I dont subscribe to your cultural/religious supremacy nonsense that Christians "rightly condemn" violence and Hindus dont.

According to reports by Christian missionaries in India who serve there with the same mission org that my daughter serves with elsewhere, the desperately poor Dalits are converting to Christianity on a very large scale, and I imagine that situation is an irritating burr under the saddle for some Hindus.

What those "reports" never tell you is that most of those large scale conversion gimmickry are scams meant to draw more funds from Christian west. The "poor Dalits" who are also illiterates are herded to a large field like cattle, for mass conversion rallies, have no idea what Christianity or conversion is all about except that if they play along they would get some free handouts. Gimmicks such as these are advertised as mass conversion victories and yet another success over "Hindu oppression". This is hardly any conversion, just that some people are getting rich from this kind of shill. And the Hindus who are irritated by this are none other then the "poor Dalits" themselves who are mostly the easy targets for conversion because of their lack of education not because of their love for Christianity. Most attacks on missionaries comes from the "poor Dalits" (sic) not the upper cast Hindus. The "poor Dalits" almost always get themselves reconverted back to Hinduism in similar mass "re-conversion" rallies.  After all who wants to let go of all the affirmative action benefits. IMO all this kinda religons shills should be outlawed.


129 posted on 06/16/2007 6:45:33 AM PDT by Gengis Khan
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