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To: philman_36; tarheelswamprat; joanie-f; B4Ranch; Czar; angkor; bill1952; FastCoyote; Cobra64
You’ve stumbled upon yet another patronizing lie – and this bill is overflowing with them – the most glaring being ‘temporary’ (but renewable for life) z-visas, immigrants fines (which only apply if the criminal desires citizenship), and these newly-penned employer fines (whose description contains loopholes through which we could drive an entire fleet of Mack trucks).

The American people have raised a deafening cry of ‘foul play!’ regarding this bill. So the bill’s supporters, our formerly esteemed president chief among them, are resorting to doing what they do best. They are using a carefully-crafted combination of semantics and outright lies in an effort to quell the revolt.

The problem for them this time (hopefully) may be that those who are up in arms about this travesty tend to be those who do not receive their information from the mainstream media (‘fair and balanced’ FoxNews included – FoxNews may well be ‘fair and balanced’ in the coverage within a particularly story, but they are nearly as guilty as the rest of the propaganda disseminators of neglecting to cover in-depth stories that cry out for attention, while focusing on Paris-Hilton-like bread and circuses. A pox on them all.)

So, whether the president’s and senate’s disingenuousness (yes, I’m being kind) plays out as they hope is yet to be seen.

But, if you’re taking bets on whether some form of this amnesty/end-of-the-republic-as-we-knew-it bill eventually becomes law, I’m betting 1/2 that it eventually passes the senate, and 3/1 that it eventually passes the house.

At which point we may as well lay out the welcome mat for the eventual end of republican government, and the eventual entrenchment of complete socialist/elitist rule, with the average white, middle-class, hard-working American assuming minority status (God help us then), and the end of the American experiment in the supremacy of individual freedom.

~ joanie

46 posted on 06/13/2007 4:08:31 PM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: joanie-f
"At which point we may as well lay out the welcome mat for the eventual end of republican government, and the eventual entrenchment of complete socialist/elitist rule, with the average white, middle-class, hard-working American assuming minority status (God help us then), and the end of the American experiment in the supremacy of individual freedom."

I know you recall that wonderful Claire Wolf quote. Do you think it's still "too early to shoot the bastards"? No response expected (I can guess)...

47 posted on 06/13/2007 4:28:25 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: joanie-f
(yes, I’m being kind)

Young lady, now is not the time to be kind!

48 posted on 06/13/2007 5:01:47 PM PDT by B4Ranch (DRIP = "Don't Return Incumbent Politicians," – two terms, and they're out.)
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To: joanie-f
You’ve stumbled upon yet another patronizing lie...
LOL I hope you caught my sarcasm at #39.

...those who do not receive their information from the mainstream media...
I listen to catch them in their "obfuscation" and there's plenty of it these days.
Thanks for the reply.
A whole 492 views...Oh, I really got the word out. Paul Revere would be highly disappointed.

49 posted on 06/13/2007 7:59:21 PM PDT by philman_36
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