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To: jedward

You’re in an emotional state about this. Read the bill, or at least descriptions of what’s in it.
It *isn’t* amnesty, and it is the best attempt to sort out the people we want from the ones we don’t than we’ve ever had. And for sure, it is a far better bill than we’d ever get with a Dem Pres and a Dem Congress.

Turn off Conservative talk radio for a few days and read the bill. Your opinion would change.


763 posted on 06/13/2007 5:54:05 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: speekinout
You’re in an emotional state about this. Read the bill, or at least descriptions of what’s in it.

If I were in an emotional state about this, I wouldn't be typing on this forum to you.  I have read the bill, and I have it bookmarked at the 2007 Amnesty Bill.  Uncle Sam provides a nice easy to read copy right here online at:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:S.1348:

get a printable PDF copy here: 

GPO's PDF Display

It *isn’t* amnesty, and it is the best attempt to sort out the people we want from the ones we don’t than we’ve ever had.

I've got copies of my ancestor's pension paperwork from the Civil War.  Don't try to kid me that our government doesn't have both the ability and resources right here and right now to sort out who shouldn't be here.  That argument doesn't even hold a drop of mist.  It's a pathetic attempt to appease legislation that dissolves our national sovereignty.  Western Europe is and has been dissolving as we speak.  Why in the hell would anyone knowing and seeing this, support this garbage?

And for sure, it is a far better bill than we’d ever get with a Dem Pres and a Dem Congress.

I'll negotiate for a higher percentage tax refund.  I'll negotiate for a better deal on an interest rate.  I won't negotiate on what the Founding Fathers created.  You sound like a politician when you say "it's better than...".  This is not a Republican/Democrat issue.  This is a Patriotic issue, and if the President wants to burn my flag and cede our territory on his watch, I'll exercise my right to speak emotionally.

Turn off Conservative talk radio for a few days and read the bill. Your opinion would change.

I listen to Mark Levin as often as I can.  Beyond that, I don't listen to talk radio.  Since you gave me a suggestion, I'll give you one.  Expect more from your elected officials.  They usually don't give much more than is expected of them, as is with most people.

769 posted on 06/13/2007 7:26:08 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: speekinout
You’re in an emotional state about this. Read the bill, or at least descriptions of what’s in it. It *isn’t* amnesty...

LOL! Yeah, right. Keep telling yourself that.

As soon as the bill is signed, illegals become legal. They get to stay here, have no consequences for being here illegally, and have access to ALL of our social services along with citizenship down the road if they desire. And no fear of ever being deported. That's amnesty.
779 posted on 06/14/2007 12:15:29 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: speekinout

It is absolutely amnesty.

The definition of amnesty has no references to paying a fine or not paying a fine it is irrelevant.

These folks are able to profit from there crimes.

Our politicos took an oath to uphold the law. If they cannot do it, they need to resign.

P.S. “You are in an emotional state”, is an old ploy to diminish the credibility of an opponent. It is unworthy of a conservative.

75% of the security and checks in this bill are negated by the exceptions. It is nothing but a dirty trick.


796 posted on 06/14/2007 8:22:00 AM PDT by HonestConservative (<just a racist xenophobe Christian radical homophobe with a dream >)
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