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To: joanie-f
>God help the law-abiding American citizen. He no longer has anywhere to turn for justice and security – the only two real Constitutional powers that his federal government is supposed to have.<

When you posted this comment did you realize how many people, who are on the receiving end of government programs, would resist these restrictions on our federal government?

Having acclimated themselves into this now dependent lifestyle, where the need for self reliance only cost them a few personal rights, they are now once again comfortable.

I don't understand it but then I have always never believed that to get along, you must go along.

347 posted on 06/12/2007 9:37:45 AM PDT by B4Ranch (DRIP = "Don't Return Incumbent Politicians," – two terms, and they're out.)
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To: B4Ranch; philman_36; Czar; angkor; bill1952; FastCoyote
You know, the arguments concerning the semantics of this bill, generally about describing its goal as amnesty, have actually managed to bury the real crimes it contains. (Mind you, I’m not averse to labeling it amnesty – any clear-thinking, non-agenda-driven person knows that it is. But I think the shouts of ‘Amnesty!’ are drowning out what should be more important outcries. Namely the fact that the bill would actually render citizenship something of a detriment rather than a privilege.

The bill most definitely does not accomplish the most critical aspect of ‘immigration reform’. It doesn’t secure the borders. And anyone who claims that the so-called ‘triggers’ in the bill see to it that border security comes first needs to get a reality check.

For instance, supposedly stringent border security measures (such as the building of 370 miles of fence) must be met before z-visas can be issued.

Any American who has been reading between the lines over the past few years has to know that congress has honed into an artform the ignoring, or rendering ‘unrealistic’, of provisions in legislation that do not align with its main agenda. The Secure Fence Act, passed last year, already authorized nearly twice the length of fence stipulated in this so-called ‘trigger’. So why the need for the trigger, and why the foot-dragging on the original act?

The ‘triggers’ amount to a list of border-security measures that the huge majority of the American citizenry wants to see in place before any kind of internal immigration reform takes place. But the ‘triggers’ amount to nothing more than patronizing lies, most or all of which will be declared ‘unrealistic’, after which the much longer list of trigger-dependent provisions will be allowed to go forward. (I believe the supporters of this bill took careful note of Bill Clinton’s promise not to raise taxes, which was conveniently explained away after he ‘discovered’ the magnitude of the deficit. Just as he knew full well when he made his no-new-taxes pledge that he would ignore that pledge, so, too, do the supporters of this bill know full well that the fulfilling of the trigger stipulations will not occur before the other aspects of the bill are initiated.)

The illegals will not suffer at all, if they don’t elect to pursue citizenship. They may avail themselves of everything that you are I do, other than voting. And it is doubtful that even that privilege will be denied them. After all, if tens of thousands of dead people, parakeets, and inhabitants of vacant lots are able to vote in the big-city elections, why shouldn’t we also extrapolate that particular nebulous voting block to soon include tens of thousands of non-citizen illegals?

If this bill becomes law, the average American will soon find himself surrounded by an ocean of non-citizens who cost more than they contribute, who bear no allegiance to our republic, and who will actually be afforded more rights, in relation to their responsibilities, than the rest of us.

The Declaration of Independence speaks fervently of repressions … repeated petitions … repeated injury. I can think of no more sickening repression of the American citizenry than this bill, and no deeper cut than the lies it contains, and the unspoken agenda that it promotes. Our leadership, in both parties, is permanently and irreparably destroying the fabric of our republic, and belittling, degrading and handcuffing those of us who are demanding that they stop. If the spirit of the revolution isn’t at least beginning to stir in us, then the spirit of America is dead.

~ joanie

590 posted on 06/12/2007 6:44:28 PM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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