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Do you consider paying a fine for any other misdemeanor offense a consequence?
$9000 and 10 years later is not fine enough or payment enough?

Do you consider paying a fine for any other misdemeanor offense a consequence? $9000 and 10 years later is not fine enough or payment enough?

When you pay a fine for stealing, you don't get to keep what you stole. You must also pay restitution. The fact that they benefit in the end from their lawbreaking makes this a fee, rather than a fine.

Do you consider paying a fine for any other misdemeanor offense a consequence? $9000 and 10 years later is not fine enough or payment enough?

Your numbers are all wrong, and grossly inflated (which tells me you've been following MSM reporting and not FR or most conservative blogs).

The Z1 fine is $1,000, payable in installments, with $200 due upon application, and the rest payable at an indeterminate "later".

The Z visa is a permanent residence document, with the right to travel abroad.

People in China, India, Pakistan, and elsewhere all around the globe can and do willingly pay human smugglers $20,000 to $50,000 just to get inside the U.S. border, with zero documentation.

As a comparison, countries such as Belize, Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia, and Vietnam require from $35,000 to $100,000 in locally-invested funds in order to qualify for anything even close to permanent residence. I believe the U.S. requirement is $1,000,000.

The point is that permanent residence has a price in most if not all countries. The $200 "fine" is that price for illegal aliens.Yes. That's amnesty.

There are of course the normal application fees for renewal of the Z visa, and a one-time $500 state impact fee.

But the $4,000 "fine" you're including in your numbers is bogus. That's completely discretionary and only assessed on application for Permanent Residency (green card).

Now, since I have a permanent Z visa, and can live and work in the U.S. as well as travel back to Honduras every other year, why do I need PR status?

Total cost for 10 years under the Z visa isn;t "$9,000", it is a maximum of $1,000 fine + $500 use + $1,500 application + $1,500 4 year renewal + $1,500 8th year renewal = $6,500 maximum. That's a $1,000 fine in installments, and $4,500 in app fees over 10 years.

I paid more than that in car taxes over 10 years.

What these people are being asked to pay is way more than most misdemeanors require. Calling this amnesty is just incorrect.

AMNESTY AMNESTY AMNESTY!!!!!!

With the stroke of pen, 12 million folks are suddenly eligible for my job. Why should my company pay ME what they pay me, if Julio will do it for half what Im paid??

***AMNESTY AMNESTY AMNESTY***