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Base to GOP: Hasta la Vista, Baby! [Tough To Lead When You Have No Base Left]
TownHall ^ | June 11, 2007 | Ken Conner

Posted on 06/11/2007 11:34:03 AM PDT by conservativecorner

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To: conservativecorner

Er, I was referring to the “elite” GOP “leaders” who are giving the conservative base (me included) the one finger salute, in the midst of this “fix Immigration NOW” rant. Especially, when W declares “Immigration Fix NOT DEAD” and certain Senators murmur “amens” from their elite posts in D.C. and on the Prez campaign, i.e. John McCain.


21 posted on 06/11/2007 12:23:36 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

Folks it ain’t over till it’s over:

Amnesty Horror II: It’s Baaaack

Senate Amnesty bill can be resurrected this week with expectations that it will pass:

WASHINGTON – A stalled measure to overhaul US immigration laws is “alive and well” and will come back for a vote after a lobbying effort by President Bush, said Commerce Secretary Carlos Gutierrez and other supporters of the bill.

The legislation might be approved by the Senate in as little as two days if Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader, allows debate on the proposal to continue, Gutierrez said yesterday in an interview on CNN’s “Late Edition.”

“I believe the votes were there, and some senators felt like they needed more time,” Gutierrez said. “This is first and foremost a national security bill. The reality is the law is weak, and this bill makes the law stronger.”

Senator Kyl predicts bill will pass before July 4th:

Seven Republican senators voted to end debate on the immigration measure, with 38 against it. The issue is damaging the party, said Senator Jon Kyl, an Arizona Republican.

“It hurts greatly. There is no political winner in this for us,” Kyl told “Late Edition.” “Maybe we could get it to a neutral, but that’s not very good politics.”

Still, Kyl predicted that the measure would pass the Senate before July 4.

Looks like the fight is not over yet and we have more work to do. We may have pulled the stake out to soon.


22 posted on 06/11/2007 12:27:47 PM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: wardaddy
what is bad this time is the magnitude

As well as the fact that if the borders are not secure BEFORE a Bill like this is signed, this will not be the last time that we debate this topic. It will show foreigners that this country has decided that sovereignty is not important to us any more, nor is the rule of law. We will be flooded with illegals and the next President will be talking about amnesty once again.
23 posted on 06/11/2007 12:29:56 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (The United States of America is the only country strong enough to go it alone.)
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To: Brad Cloven
"...toss the RINO leadership from OUR party"

Now is the time to start. I've already written two checks, one to one of our reps, and the other to a GOP activist/writer/ex-CEO, with letters encouraging him to consider running for the Senate to replace our two current Senators.

Now is the time to start getting their names known across the state.

Now is the time to establish their credentials and positions in the minds of the voters.

Now is the time to make sure every voter in the state knows about the seditious behavior of our current senators.

Now is the time to make sure their support of big government, big spending, amnesty pushing, elitism becomes a brand of shame on their political careers.

Don't give up the party--help take the party back from the country club neo-cons that have stolen it.

24 posted on 06/11/2007 12:31:39 PM PDT by MinimizeGovernment (cynic: One who knows that political decisions are always made in the self-interest of the politician)
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To: conservativecorner
Mr. President, all your base are belong to us.

TS
"Karl, someone set up us the bomb!" -- G. W. Bush.

25 posted on 06/11/2007 12:35:23 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a Liberal when I married her.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

From Polipundit:

“Kennedy Plea Was Last Gasp for Immigration Bill”

This article is terribly unflattering to Senator’s Kyl and Graham, both of whom need to be run out of office. More behind the scenes reporting,

Desperate to salvage a measure in which he and others had invested months, Senator Edward M. Kennedy headed to the secluded Capitol suite of Senator Harry Reid, the majority leader, to make one last personal plea.

Mr. Kennedy, an immigration advocate since his first days in the Senate nearly 45 years ago, hoped to persuade Mr. Reid to delay a procedural vote that could kill the measure. As the two met shortly after 7 p.m. on Thursday in the well-appointed office that overlooks the Mall, Mr. Reid told Mr. Kennedy, Democrat of Massachusetts, that Republicans would just endlessly stall the bill and that it was time to move on. Mr. Reid had already granted enough extensions.

Um, yeah, can’t we all agree that 44+ years in the Senate is enough for Uncle Teddy at this point? More,

The creation of the bill, too, was highly unorthodox. Even participants in the private negotiations that led to the so-called grand bargain say their very approach created problems, producing contentious legislation embraced by the participants but met with skepticism by other lawmakers, the public and groups like organized labor and conservative research organizations. “The chance to create meaningful immigration reform legislation was lost the moment the bill emerged from its closed-door meeting with an immediate path to amnesty for anywhere from 12 million to 20 million illegal immigrants,” Senator James M. Inhofe, Republican of Oklahoma, said in hailing the defeat of the bill.

“This agreement was reached between a handful of senators,” said Senator Jeff Bingaman of New Mexico, one of the Democrats who balked and voted against limiting debate. “That should not be considered a substitute for deliberation by the full Senate.”

“Highly unorthodox” is a euphemism for “trying to rush a pile of crap through without anyone noticing.” I enjoyed this:

The office of Mr. Reid, who had emphatically sought to hold Republicans accountable for sabotaging a presidential priority, distributed a document titled “Republicans Brought Down the Immigration Bill.”

It listed news reports and Republican statements that put the onus on the president’s party. “Last night, Republicans torpedoed comprehensive immigration reform,” the statement said.

Republicans fired back, saying Mr. Reid never embraced the bill and had, rather skillfully in some people’s opinion, set up Republicans to take the fall.

This just shows how clueless the political class is. This bill is wildly unpopular, yet none of these people want credit for ending it. Proving that beltway myopia and an addiction to praise from the liberal media and “bipartisanship” are terrible and often corrupting influences.
Aw, the dilligent public servant hard at work,

In the hours leading up to the collapse, Mr. Reid looked weary, with dark circles surrounding his eyes. As he walked back to the Senate floor at 4:30, his voice carried barely a trace of optimism. “We’ve done more than our share,” he said, pausing for a moment. “We’ve sent all the signals we can to get the president to help. It’s his bill.”

No bias there! More, turncoats and heros:

Mr. McConnell had his hands full, as well. Senator Jon Kyl of Arizona, the No. 3 Republican, was an architect of the compromise. Others, like Mr. Cornyn, were critical but professed willingness to consider the measure if it were revised. Some, like Senators Jeff Sessions of Alabama and Jim DeMint of South Carolina, saw little hope of repairing the plan. Mr. DeMint even objected to Republican amendments on Thursday on the floor.

As the meeting stretched on, party aides shot updates to Democratic members of the immigration coalition via BlackBerry devices. Officials said Mr. Reid also called Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina, to encourage him to come up with a finite list of amendments.

The outcome left many lawmakers frustrated. Mr. Kyl noted that senators mingled on the floor for more than an hour after the decision, “because there seemed to be a sense that it couldn’t end with that vote.”

Kyl and Graham can’t leave the Senate fast enough. Don’t worry, the President was hard at work trying to revive this abomination. Let’s hope he fails.

— The Ace


26 posted on 06/11/2007 12:35:40 PM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: wardaddy

Either we stand up to them, or we are finished!


27 posted on 06/11/2007 12:41:39 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: conservativecorner

“The issue is damaging the party, said Senator Jon Kyl, an Arizona Republican.”

No Kyl YOU are damaging the party!!!!


28 posted on 06/11/2007 12:43:22 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: conservativecorner
"..it’s not so much Conservative VS. Liberal but rather elitists VS. average joe six pack American."

Worth repeating bump!

29 posted on 06/11/2007 12:48:46 PM PDT by Designer
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To: conservativecorner

O M G... What is WRONG with these people? Dont they get it?
We dont WANT THIS POS!

“I believe the votes were there, and some senators felt like they needed more time,” Gutierrez said. “This is first and foremost a national security bill. The reality is the law is weak, and this bill makes the law stronger.”

Then take out amnesty, which has nothing to do with national security. Take out amnesty for criminal aliens.


30 posted on 06/11/2007 1:01:30 PM PDT by WOSG (Stop Illegal Immigration. Call your Senator today. Senate Switchboard at 202-224-3121.))
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To: conservativecorner

The dem politicians seem to be getting a pass on this immigration insanity.

Most of the citizenry, without regard to political party, is against this shamnesty bill.

If you go to DU and other lib forums, you’ll find that the comments on immigration threads look just like they do here at FR, but also like us, they are carping on the republicans much more than their own dem leadership.


31 posted on 06/11/2007 1:03:44 PM PDT by umgud ("When seconds count, the police are just 10 minutes away!")
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To: conservativecorner
Mr. Bush sought to dismantle the civil justice system by reducing accountability for negligent and reckless conduct by business interests.

Did I miss something ? I don't believe tort reform has occurred.

32 posted on 06/11/2007 1:11:12 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: conservativecorner

It is a mistake to underestimate one’s opponent. In 06 Dems had a better election strategy. That’s all. And some of it is reflected in this article’s analysis. It looks to me like disinformation from the other side.


33 posted on 06/11/2007 1:13:05 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: TomasUSMC

Cheney supports President Bush 100% on all of the issues, including immigration!


34 posted on 06/11/2007 1:16:19 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: umgud

Who cares upon whom the “blame” rests for sinking this piece of crap ? The important thing is that most of the country is united AGAINST it.


35 posted on 06/11/2007 1:17:05 PM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: umgud

It is the dem provisions that I deplore, especially amnesty and those that make law enforcement harder. That’s the grand bargain, I think.


36 posted on 06/11/2007 1:18:17 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: conservativecorner

I think things may be changing. I think the base is starting to realize that if they chuck the RINO clowns come primary time, they can own the party again.


37 posted on 06/11/2007 1:19:29 PM PDT by DesScorp
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To: TomasUSMC
Unfortunately I think Cheny is behind this. Moreover, I do not believe his heart could last him another 8 years.
38 posted on 06/11/2007 1:23:27 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: conservativecorner
"Folks it ain’t over till it’s over:"

It's never over till the gravitationally challenged member of the feminine gender begins to vocalize melodiously!!!

There! How's That for PC???

39 posted on 06/11/2007 1:24:48 PM PDT by SierraWasp (I'm not just "in contempt of CONgress," now I'm in contempt of all 3 branches of our governments!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

They will wish they had never seen the day they crossed the base....Hell hath no fury as the base scorned!!!


40 posted on 06/11/2007 1:45:26 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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