I have daughters, and I have imagined that. I wouldn’t like it at all. That’s why I try to teach my children to be good, honorable, moral people who use good sense. Will my children have sex before they get married? Realistically, probably so. Will they have sex as teenagers? As much as I don’t want that to happen, it’s pretty likely to happen. Statistically a very high percentage of teens have sex. I know I did when I was a teenager, but mostly I just thought about it, constantly. I would be very surprised and extremely disappointed if I were ever to learn that any of my daughters were out “whoring around” at parties having sex with all sorts of guys. I doubt that happens very often though with teens who have good parents who are doing their jobs. Unfortunately there are a lot of terrible parents out there though. I know a little about that. I’m a small town public defender and one of the many things I do is represent every single juvenile who gets in trouble in my county whose parents do not hire them private counsel, so I end up representing better than 95% of them. Most of the teenage girls I deal with it seems are sexually active. Many start at a very young age. Too often their parents are trashy people who were screw ups when they were younger (and still are), a bunch of selfish lame brain drug addled losers who do not care about their kids enough to actually parent them, not that they have what it takes to be great parents even if they tried. The longer I do this the more I think that perhaps forced sterilization isn’t such a bad thing after all in certain cases. I’m only halfway kidding about that.
If my 15 year old daughter had sex with a 17 year old boy would I want him strung from the highest tree with the shortest rope? I suppose it depends a lot on what happened. If he did something like spike her drink and take advantage of her while she was passed out, I’d want him nailed hard. If it was purely consensual, I’d be very upset and would want the kid to get in trouble, but not in a whole lot more trouble than my daughter would be in with me. I have smart kids. I trust them to use good sense as they get older. They need to be held accountable for their bad actions. If they do something wrong I don’t blame it all on the other kids they were with. You know whenever I have a group of juvenile clients who do something wrong it seems like most all of the parents come in my office and tell me their kid is a good kid who just got in with the wrong crowd. It’s always the other kids’ fault. I say b.s. to that. I won’t cut my kids that kind of slack. I’ll hold them accountable for their actions, because I want them to learn to to take responsibility for their actions. Mostly I represent adults. My frequent fliers, the ones who will get in trouble over and over again, tend to be incapable of taking responsibility for their actions. It’s always someone else’s fault. They’re always in the wrong place at the wrong time, always with the wrong crowd, or the police are always picking on them. I try my hardest to get them to take responsibility for their actions because I know that until they learn to do that I am going to see them over and over again. And of course I’ll see their kids over in juvenile court until they graduate to the big leagues and end up in adult court where I’ll likely see them again and again. It’s a vicious cycle. I’m swimming in a sea of irresponsibility at my job. I won’t have that at home.
Someone asked her about marriage prospects ~ and in about 15 minutes she'd given us pretty much the spiel you gave, and was crying and carrying on, and crawling on the floor, and folding up into fetal positions, and just turning into a total emotional mess.
Seemed that every woman she had as a client was regularly beaten by some guy who'd left her with a couple of kids, etc.
Several of us advised her to find a new job.
No idea what happened to her after that.
These were 6 thugs who took advantage of 2 females. One unconscious and 1 underage. Where was the man in this group? Where was the one that said "This isn't right" lets get these girls home?
I don't understand. Folks here are saying that since he was acquitted of rape of the 17 yr old (which it sure as hell looks like he did) he shouldn't pay the price for his other conviction?
Google his name. I have never seen a media driven to subvert justice to match this. The rationale is he's black, no priors, decent grades so he shouldn't do the time.
I typed this really long reply to you about my kids, our parenting, an interesting pre marital sex discussion we had last night, and erased it.
I’ll just say, I agree with you mostly (I’m raising my kids to be moral and the two teens are, they’re sorta appalled by some of the stuff I say regarding teens in love, experimenting, etc.). My 16 yo and 15 yo are way more moral than I was as a teen (and I was a vigin when I married, my husband wasn’t - far from it - but I wasn’t an angel either).
As for this case, I thought the sentence was harsh if it was consenual sex between a 15 and 17 yo. I didn’t know about the video with the other girl and I’m still not sure of all the details of the case.