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To: AuH2ORepublican
What Paul has to do if he truly is pro-life is support Duncan Hunter’s bill that would use Section 5 of the 14th Amendment to define “person” under Section 1 of the 14th Amendment as any human being from the moment of conception until death. Section 5 of the 14th Amendment gives Congress clear authority to legislate for the enforcement of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment, so Paul should have no qualms about it being an unconstitutional law.

Unfortunately, every single Justice who has ruled on Abortion since Roe -- including Antonin Scalia -- has stated that the Unborn are NOT "Persons" under the 14th Amendment.

Unless Hunter's Bill includes the language from Ron Paul's Sanctity of Life Act removing the issue from Federal Court jurisdiction, the Right to Life Act will be struck down by SCOTUS immediately upon passing the Congress.

At least Ron Paul's Bill, by returning Authority to the States (in which it was Constitutionally vested originally) offers the chance for Abortion to be outlawed by at least 30 States, and removes the Federal jurisdiction to strike down those State laws. Hunter's Bill, by leaving the Federal Courts "in the loop", would be struck down by SCOTUS immediately -- and so would accomplish exactly NOTHING.

30 posted on 06/16/2007 7:43:49 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (Please Ping or FReepMail me to be added to the Great Ron Paul Ping List)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

The Supreme Court has ruled that, following the Roe precedent, the word “person” under Section 1 of the 14th Amendment does not include unborn babies. What Congressman Hunter’s bill (which is a new version of Senator Jesse Helms’s bill from the 1980s and which in turn was a new version of Senator Buckley’s bill from 1973) does is to use Section 5 of the 14th Amendment, which provides that Congress may enforce the amendment through legislation, to make clear that the word “person” in Section 1 includes unborn babies and that it would be a federal crime for a state to abridge such person’s right to life without due process of law. Justices Scalia, Thomas, Alito and Roberts will almost certainly rule that Congress may use Section 5 of the 14th Amendment to enforce the provisions of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment, since that’s what the clear text of Section 5 says. I have no idea how Justice Kennedy would vote, but it’s definitely worth a try.

Paul’s bill would remove federal court jurisdiction on abortion cases at a time in which the Supreme Court precedents provide for abortion on demand until the moment of birth (while it allows states to impose certain restrictions, none may be placed if the health of the mother, including her mental health, may be affected). If federal courts are blocked from hearing any abortion cases, Roe v. Wade and its progeny will never be overturned and you will still have courts in most of the 50 states claiming that there is a right to abortion under the U.S. Constitution. If the U.S. Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade, then and only then would Paul’s bill actually be helpful to the pro-life cause, since it would not allow future federal courts to bring back Roe and since there would not be any federal pro-abortion precedent that state laws may follow, but right now Paul’s bill would be foolish.


31 posted on 06/17/2007 8:54:41 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
BTW, the “All persons born” language in Section 1 of the 14th Amendment refers to U.S. citizenship-—Hunter’s bill would not be conferring U.S. citizenship to fetuses. However, Section 1 also says that no state shall deprive any person of life, liberty or property without due process of law, and that is where a law passed pursuant to Section 5 of the 14th Amendment that clarifies that “person” includes all human beings from conception until death would be not only appropriate but also beneficial.
32 posted on 06/17/2007 10:09:08 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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