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To: dvan

This is so far beyond amnesty it is almost unbelievable. The intent is to merge our countries, in an extra constitutional manner using only the bureaucracy. All made possible by strings of SCOTUS decisions that essentially give the bureaucrats complete complete control of our lives. The breadth and scope of this is staggering. The mendacity and Machiavellian nature terrifying. This is way, way beyond amnesty. Folks, I think the congress is essentially clueless. What tyranny had been initiated in the name of the public good.


15 posted on 06/09/2007 7:09:02 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Nuc1

Bingo.


34 posted on 06/10/2007 5:09:02 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Nuc1; Repeal 16-17; All
"This is so far beyond amnesty it is almost unbelievable. The intent is to merge our countries, in an extra constitutional manner using only the bureaucracy. All made possible by strings of SCOTUS decisions that essentially give the bureaucrats complete complete control of our lives. The breadth and scope of this is staggering. The mendacity and Machiavellian nature terrifying. This is way, way beyond amnesty. Folks, I think the congress is essentially clueless. What tyranny had been initiated in the name of the public good."

An excellent assessment, Nuc1, but let's consider for a moment that congress isn't clueless, that not only congress, but the executive branch and the judicial branch as well know exactly what they are doing and they are fully aware what consequences their decisions are having on our political system.

But what can be said that would serve as a logical explanation for their bizarre behavior?

In what other set of political circumstances could one expect similar behavior?

I can think of two other reasons why our officials would be involved in a plan to destroy the nation's political, economic, and cultural system.

First of all, I don't think Congress is clueless, but are complicit -- that all three branches are following the same game plan. Nothing in politics happens by accident and the transformation of our nation has not been happening in a vacuum from the perspective of the other two branches or the public itself.

Second, let me rule out a coup by any one branch, as the other two branches would keep that off the table. Our system was designed to insure against that or we would have been involved in a domestic shootin' war a long time ago.

But in the case of the former, a slower approach not involving any overt or sudden moves would describe what has been happening. Enough happening for slow erosion, but not enough at any one time to cause an uprising or any great dissent.

Until now, that is.

We should have had a clue what was coming down the pike after 9/11 when the borders were not sealed.

Many of us reasoned correctly that if the border was not sealed, it was because a large number of terrorists were already in the country, (which the administration already knew about) and to close it for that reason alone wouldn't have been logical from the government's perspective.

Then we began looking at the large numbers of illegals that were pouring in each day -- and year and it quickly became apparent that the U.S. was going to become bankrupt in a very short period unless the pipeline was shut down completely and the current population of illegals removed.

The flood of illegals coupled with the seasonal 'nuke' scares involving the fate of 16 American cities became the rally point for the people's movement to close the borders. TPTB behind the open borders policy committed a tactical blunder when it chose not to address the issue, or even throw the people a few crumbs of feigned interest to assuage the fears of the people.

It mis-gauged the resistance and ignored the pleas to close the borders until the pleas became loud enough, then unwisely tried to play catch-up with the amnesty bill, which failed, leaving the fate of the nation up for grabs. In the meantime, many folks started sounding another alarm concerning the NAFTA Super Corridor and plans for the North American Union, and it wasn't long before it became obvious that the open borders policy was deliberately put in place, for it was to play a major role in the creation of the NAU, the plan for which will officially be presented to Congress this fall.

At this late date, it is unknown and anyone's guess what will happen next. Stay tuned!

51 posted on 06/16/2007 12:12:09 PM PDT by Eastbound
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